Ukraine accuses Russia of downing plane; Moscow attacks new sanctions

Accusation came amid strong criticism from Moscow of the Obama administration.
TNS Regional News
Jul 17, 2014


 Ukrainian official on Thursday accused Russian forces of shooting down one of his nation’s warplanes the day before near their shared border, raising tensions between the two nations as Ukrainian troops continued their campaign against pro-Russia insurgents.

The accusation came amid strong criticism from Moscow of the Obama administration’s imposition Wednesday of additional sanctions on Russia over the conflict.

Andrey Lysenko, spokesman for Ukraine’s National Security Council, said a Russian warplane shot down the Ukrainian Su-24 jet with a missile over the Donetsk region of eastern Ukraine.

“On July 16 at about 19:00 Russia carried out another provocation,” Lysenko said at a briefing in Kiev. “A Russian Federation armed forces plane delivered a missile strike at a Ukraine armed forces Su-25 jet which was carrying out tasks over the territory of Ukraine.”

The Ukrainian jet crashed but the pilot ejected safely and was rescued, Lysenko said.

The charge came hours after Washington imposed new economic sanctions against Russia, accusing it of failing to deescalate the armed conflict in Ukraine’s Donbass region.

President Barack Obama said Wednesday that the new sanctions were largely aimed at punishing Russia for not preventing the flow of weapons into Ukraine to supply pro-Russia rebels seeking independence from Ukraine.

“I have repeatedly made it clear that Russia must halt the flow of weapons and fighters across the border into Ukraine,” Obama said. “I have made this clear directly to (Russian President Vladimir) Putin.”

Moscow did not respond to Ukraine’s accusation of shooting down its plane but vehemently denounced the imposition of new sanctions on Thursday.

“We view the new package of sanctions against Russia as a primitive attempt at revenge for the fact that the events in Ukraine are not unfolding according to Washington’s scenario,” Russian Foreign Ministry spokesman Alexander Lukashevich said in a televised statement. “The outrageous and ungrounded desire to blame Russia for the civil war in the neighboring country, which stemmed from the deep internal crisis and has already led to numerous casualties, testifies that the United States’ and their Kiev clients’ strategy is to silence the people’s wide-scale discontent by force.”

Lukashevich accused the White House of “inciting bloodshed” in eastern Ukraine.

“At the same time, while trying to cynically avoid responsibility and grossly distorting the facts, (Washington) once again resorted to brandishing its favorite tool — a sanctions club,” the diplomat charged.

Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev told a government session that “the pressure on Russia cannot but affect our budget policy and its priorities,” RIA Novosti reported.

“We will have to pay more attention to defense and security spending,” Medvedev said. “We know how to do it.”

The new sanctions could deal a serious blow to the Russian economy and its military-industrial sector but were unlikely to compel the Kremlin to deescalate the conflict, said Alexander Golts, a senior Russian defense expert.

“Among the companies hit by new sanctions are not only Russian oil and gas monopolies but some stalwarts of Russian arms manufacturing such as Kalashnikov,” Golts, deputy editor of the liberal Yezhednevny Zhurnal online publication, said in an interview. “Since this and other military-industrial complex companies on the new sanctions list are known to make all their international transaction in U.S. dollars, their business operations from now on will be seriously affected.”

“Putin has already made it clear that he had abandoned his plans of a direct military intervention in Ukraine and may not really understand the goal of the new sanctions,” Golts said. “I don’t understand why the United States doesn’t hurry to present hard evidence of the continued Russian involvement in the conflict if it has it, the way images of Soviet missiles were made public during the Caribbean (Cuban Missile) Crisis back in the early ‘60s.”

News of the additional sanctions sent the Russian stock market down as much as 3 percent on Thursday and caused a significant drop in the value of the ruble against the dollar, Russian media reported.

The downing of the Ukrainian plane Wednesday followed a similar episode and similar charge by Kiev when a Ukrainian AN-26 military transport was shot down Monday in the Luhansk region. The plane was hit by a Russian missile, Ukraine Security Service chief Valentin Nalivaychenko said in televised remarks this week.

“The investigation is over,” Nalivaychenko said. “We have irrefutable proof which will be first reported to the president and then published.”

Two members of the transport plane’s crew were taken prisoner by separatists and the fate of the other six people on board remained unknown, Vladislav Seleznev, spokesman for the government’s anti-terrorist operation, told the Los Angeles Times.

Meanwhile, in a day of continued fighting between government forces and pro-Russia rebels, five Ukrainian military personnel were killed and 11 wounded, Lysenko said at a Thursday briefing.

Earlier this week Lysenko said 258 servicemen had been killed and 923 wounded since the beginning of the hostilities in eastern Ukraine.


By Victoria Butenko and Sergei L. Loiko - Los Angeles Times (MCT)

Special correspondent Butenko reported from Kiev and staff writer Loiko from Moscow.

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Cliff Cannon

My bad to comment here. So I erased it.

swiss family

yes Cliff... Please Don't have a real opinion on anything... just kiss everyone's butt .. that's what you do...


WOW Swiss!

Pretty heavy handed comment. Considering I asked you the same question in two different articles regarding the superintendent position and you refused to answer. Does that mean you don't have a "real opinion"?

It appears you have a bone regarding Cliff and Dr. Goodsite.


i think it's a boner for them..

swiss family

ISPSP... there is a BIG difference between NOT seeing a question asked.... and REFUSING TO ANSWER... if I said to you that I refuse to answer, than that is exactly what I meant.. but that is NOT what I did if I did NOT see the question ASKED in the FIRST PLACE...I think it is pretty clear that I have real opinions, and I am not afraid to share them, and I don't really care who gets offended by them, BUT I hope whomever gets offended tells me and I would be happy to talk it through with them... as in Mrs, Dr. Goodsite.. I do Not know her, have never met nor talked to her .. I have lots of opinions on her job and her position... it has nothing to do with her personally and I do not want her to take it personally.. if she does and is offended what I say about her position or her decisions, Please let me know.. and I will explain why the DECISION was a bad call IN MY OPINION>. which after all is only MY OPINION.... it has nothing to do with her personally I don't know her for goodness sake... make sense???? I do on the other hand have abit of an edge against Cliff though...he seems to get to play by a different set of rules in here..He chooses to use his real name to post things good for him.. I know you can NOT see me but I am giving him a standing O.. but that is his choice, others including myself choose not to... yet he feels the need to expose people at his choosing.. he has put my name out there many times.. I have had some tragedy in my life, and so has he.. he has put my deceased family members name on here at least once, possibly more, there was a time when I quit reading them because I swear , with God as my witness I was ready to disassemble him any way possible.. and cliff that is NOT a threat... it was a promise... but that ship has sailed.. and you are off my s list for now... but I have never talked about or named the tragedies in his life and talked about the "Karma that seems to surround him but never hit him, coming close but never hitting directly.. I have not hit him with that crap.. I could have I believe he would do that to me.. but that would be "having a bone against Cliff" as he seems to have a bone against me

If I call anyone a name.. the moderator takes it down.. go back and see how many times Cliff calls me a troll...... count them... but when truckin said something about him parking in a questionable spot Cliff is talking about "Slander" (obviously he doesn't know his libels and slanders apart...So I hope you see the difference.. my problem with the VICE super.. has always been that position in the first place... and my problem with Cliff is personal... keep my name out of your egotistical blogs, keep my deceased family members out of your life and never out of your mouth and we will both be better off... because I know plenty of people in Cliffs past, his sister, ex wife and if he wants me to start to tell stories I sure will.... and trust me... they do NOT all make him out to be the hero he thinks he is


My heart goes out to those that perished on the Malaysian flight, my heart also goes out to the Ukrainian people, they are caught in a tug of war between East and West and I fear it will not end well for them. International Bankers from both sides are trying to steal natural resources from Ukraine and in the end they will end up with a lower standard of living.

J Cooper

Out president's response "it might be a terrible tragedy?" he then continued on his fundraising speech and trip.

what the eff

What else would you have him say Coop...?

J Cooper

The term he used was "might be" over 250 people killed by an attack of terrorism and it "might" be a terrible tragedy. He should have cancelled his fund raising trip out of respect for the victims of this barbaric attack on a civilian aircraft by Russia and their surrogates.


We sent fighters a while ago to NATO. I don't think any action was really needed here at all. The thing that pisses me off about Dumbo, he spends more time raising money for The Dumbs, than at his desk. The cost of operating Air Force One I am sure comes out of that money, right ?

Cliff Cannon

Having my own personal troll ( ain't I lucky ) What I first wrote then erased was simply this: It is a dang dirty shame, when so many innocent lives were lost and more importantly ( if that is possible considering the lives already lost ) that a major war seems on the verge of breaking out.

Is that here in our own personal place to express our opinions on the news of the day. Is that some 160 comments at the time were directed towards women using a baseball bat for a weapon.

All the while everyone was ignoring this very huge, very important event. Then it occurred to me. That like all politics, all news is local and I felt it better to think silently of this waste of innocent lives ,then pray this doesn't lead to a major war and now gratefully acknowledge I was wrong to be angry. Many good people do care about this terrible event.

swiss family

so you start out by throwing out some of your hatred my way... unless "troll" is a term of endearment... then you get all sappy and Mark Twainy, and John Lennony and try to turn it into "Give peace a chance " and Rodney King's" "can't we all just get along" that is why I HATE you.. you are soooooo full of SH0T and such a phony....I wish when your MAMMA changed your diapers they would have squeezed you a little bit , because there was a whole lot left in there that needed to come out!!!!!!