Obamacare: What's your opinion

President Obama announced Tuesday that 7.1 million Americans have signed up for health plans under the Affordable Care Act, the most ambitious federal effort in nearly half a century to widen access to coverage. What is your opinion of Affordable Care Act, also known as Obamacare? Do you know anybody who signed up for insurance? In the comments section below, please let us know how it worked and if it saved you money.

I like it
25% (13 votes)
I don't like it
71% (37 votes)
I don't care
4% (2 votes)
Total votes: 52


Dr. Information

and breast exams.


Just because it doesn't directly effect you doesn't mean your country doesn't need it.
John Green explains it best: http://cdn.iwastesomuchtime.com/...


That's because it's completely illegal for the government to release that type of information. Those things are protected by the Freedom of Information Act of 1986. The Ohio Revised Code Section 149.43 which deals with the Availability of Public Records in Ohio states that the following (and much more) can not be requested via a FOIA request: medical records; records maintained by the department of job and family services pursuant to section 3121.894 of the Revised Code; and lastly financial statements and data any person submits for any purpose to the Ohio housing finance agency or the controlling board in connection with applying for, receiving, or accounting for financial assistance from the agency, and information that identifies any individual who benefits directly or indirectly from financial assistance from the agency. You obviously didn't pay much attention in your government class in high school.

Cliff Cannon

In 1965 the federal government implemented 'medicare/medicaid' as part of l.b.j.'s great society programs. Since then medical costs have sky rocketed.

Of course, those of us old to remember when our parents could afford to take us to the doctor. Don't need to be told, that the federal government involvement in the medical arena ( along with frivolous lawsuits) is what drove the costs through the roof.

So now we get obamacare, with all it's false starts, all of it's loopholes, all it's extraordinary cost's it will add to the little guy, ( My wife's employer with 90 employee's will pay an extra 290,000 in premium's this year) it is so dang wacky that even the idiot's in congress who passed don't understand it and then ice the cake with our government running what ? A 1.45 trillion deficit adding it's share of the cost to this disaster.

And you know what comes into my mind when I think of obamacare ? Why do those treasonous S.O.B.'s in D.C. want to destroy our country ?

P.S. By the way I voted " I don't like it " in the poll.

David Deerest.

Let's not forget those famous words from Nancy Pelosi..."We have to PASS the bill to know what's IN the bill."

Cliff Cannon

Amen !


cliFF i agrEE. Why should you & i pay for aLL those treasonous rastards in D.C.? They do not deserve any health care.


And if it is so good why is it none of the jackwagons in DC want to have it? Old Harry Reid even excepted his entire staff from it.

Dr. Information

Michelle and her man are about to divorce anyhow. To many lavish vacations and top aids in the Whitehouse are telling her to cool it and she ain't having it.


Further cliFF check out Charley REEse's last editorial (545). While I do not agrEE with aLL he says, he's on target with the 545. Notice how the Reflector changed the posting order? Why?

Cliff Cannon

@kURTje : Thanks for the tip on Charlie Reese. Thankfully though, I am a long time fan of his and tend to agree almost verbatim with him.

As to the ' Reflector " posting order. No clue.

Great day to you.

VTX Rider

For those that feel this is affordable please take a few minutes out of your day and visit the Healthcare site, www.healthcare.gov, and find out what your cost would be based on your personal situation. If at the end of this experiment you still feel this is an "affordable" program please share your thoughts as to why. I did this and used two people aged 48 & 50 in my example with a household income of $100,000. Based on these inputs the premium would be $591.00 per month/$7092.00 per year for the lowest cost coverage which also carries a $12,000 deductible. If the household income is 60,000 or less the premium drops to 237.00 per month/$2,844.00 per year with 354.00 subsidized (in the form of a tax credit) and also carries a $12,000 deductible. Think about the tax credit. I believe you don't get this until you file your taxes so you still pay the full fee every month and receive the credit after filing your taxes. I'm not certain though. Now, if you are healthy and young and choose not to have coverage, or if you just can't afford it, well, it's still going to cost you 1% of your yearly household income or 95.00 which both are based on your income.

Does this sound "affordable"? It sure doesn't to me. In either case listed above, this illustrates that this plan is not an "affordable" plan. The healthcare/insurance industry as a whole is broken. This isn't going to fix it. Do you think this will help increase the profits of these industries who's lobbyist have the politicians in their pockets? I do. In my opinion (which for now I still have a right to) it all comes down to politics and greed. Do you really think the politicians care that "we the people" have "affordable healthcare insurance?

So, what is the answer? I don't know, I do not have one. But I don't think this is it.


Exactly. The industry has been broken. I remember Dr. Carmadesse's (sp?) discourse. Roughly 27% the bill is from those who can't/wont pay.

Joe Centers

This is what a Reflector reader who does not own a computer says:

"I don’t think government should be in the business of private care. I think they should appeal it. It should be our choice for our doctor and our health. They shouldn’t be setting regulations for what we can and cannot do.”


I work 30 hours per week and am a full-time student, and my wife works 40 hours per week. We're anything but freeloaders. However, now, with the new act, we have health insurance- and damn fine insurance at that. Aside from when I broke my arm two years ago - of which the medical bills are still not paid off - I haven't seen a doctor since I got my tetanus booster at 15. I was able to go to the doctor a few weeks ago and was diagnosed with pharyngitis, given a prescription, and got it filled, all within an hour. It was amazing.


@ Daniel, I had to look that word up LOL, why not just say I had a sore throat. My problem with obamacare is not the cost so much in dollars, but in human life. I am well into my 60's and what if I get something that is going to be costly to fix, and they cannot guarantee that they can cure it? are they going to turn me down and say NO, because you only have X amount of years left and the procedure is so costly your not a viable candidate , your not a productive member of society you live on Social Security. Your days of being productive are over, your just a drain on us, not only will the feds save money on the doctors and procedure , since SS is broke it will save money there too by letting me die. you can't say this won't happen have you read the 1000 or so pages fully. I haven't


I have not read the document in it's entirety, however I have read large sections of it, including the provisions on pre-existing conditions. From what I understand, being old is not a pre-existing condition.


Good Luck Daniel, just remember when reading the 2080 pages ( I did look up to see how large it was) look for qualifiers. Here's a hint...A section of Obamacare makes clear the secretary of health and human services may not use research data from the new institute in a manner that treats the life of an elderly, disabled or terminally ill individual as lower in value than that of an individual who is younger, non-disabled or not terminally ill.

However, the dictate comes with a qualifier some many find concerning.... Here's the qualifier..........Paragraph (1) shall not be construed as preventing the Secretary from using evidence or findings from such comparative clinical effectiveness research in determining coverage, reimbursement, or incentive programs under title XVIII based upon a comparison of the difference in the effectiveness of alternative treatments in extending an individual’s life due to the individual’s age, disability, or terminal illness.
Best of luck to you DanielHolida


Survey: US sees sharpest health insurance premium increases in years.

The investment bank’s April survey of 148 brokers found that this quarter, the average premium increase for customers renewing an insurance plan is 12 percent in the small group market and 11 percent in the individual market, according to Forbes’ Scott Gottlieb.

The hikes — the largest in the past three years, according to Morgan Stanley’s quarterly reports — are “largely due to changes under the [Affordable Care Act],” analysts concluded. Rates have been growing increasingly fast throughout all of 2013, after a period of drops in 2012