Obama-Romney Round 2 - Who won the second debate?

President Barack Obama and Republican challenger Mitt Romney aggressively challenged each other Tuesday night in their second debate, with more than 90 minutes of sharp attacks, interrupted answers and testy exchanges over the economy, taxes, immigration and energy. In your opinion, who performed better and why?

Barack Obama
29% (26 votes)
Mitt Romney
60% (55 votes)
Neither
7% (6 votes)
I didn't watch Tuesday's debate
4% (4 votes)
Total votes: 91

Comments

betrump

Hilarious. Every post you've ever written is rude and obnoxious, and you wanna play crybaby when someone then slights you? Typical Teabagger.

rogerthat

They always start the name calling when they are wrong and someone points it out.

rogerthat

So you are willing to pay even higher taxes so that rappers and other entertainers, pro athletes, etc. can pay less? And you seem to think that sending jobs to China and gutting American industry will make us better off? Romney is Bush III only worse. Sorry about your sensitive feelings, pal, but you ain't seen rude yet.

arnmcrmn

More companies have up and left and went to China under Obama's watch....and this guy who you stroke is invested in Chinese stock up to his ears, which are big.

betrump

Proof. Details. Because that's a pretty bold statement.

Dr. Information

American jobs have been shifting to low-wage countries for years, and the trend has continued during Obama’s presidency. From 2008 to 2010, U.S. trade with China alone cost about 450,000 American jobs because of the growth of Chinese exports, said Robert E. Scott, a pro-labor advocate at the liberal Economic Policy Institute. That figure was less than in previous years, but the decrease was probably tied to the U.S. economic slowdown, which crimped demand for imports.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/bu...

Also - Here's a read and investigation from FactCheck.org on Romney and Obama's overreach to call him a "outsourcer"....I read this over a month ago.

http://factcheck.org/2012/06/oba...

arnmcrmn

@Dr. I, I read the factchecker one not to long ago via an email that was forwarded on to me. I always knew the Bain capital claim was a stretch and the research above shows that, but thanks for posting that information. Don't expect any logical return post. The left only believe things on the internet that support their running mate and wont believe the facts.

Sitting In The ...

What facts did you learn from Romney/Ryan you didn't know prior to the debates?.

Sitting In The ...

When he took over we were in the worse economical disaster since the Great Depression. He dodged the question really? I guess it would appear that way since he said " please proceed" the thing is he said that because he knew the facts he was there in the rose garden so he let the Romney stat that he knew for a fact it took the President 14 days at which time he was corrected by the moderator. Have a great weekend thank you.

MHL

Obama made RMoney look like the spoiled he is.
That breaks the tie puts us up 2-1!!!
The next debate is on foreign policy where so far RomneyRyan have been clueless.
Less than a week to study

arnmcrmn

Spoken like a true party hugger.

Sitting In The ...

Hasn't he been clueless this entire time. I would encourage people who disagree to state your case...please

propman

Obama sounded strident while talking.
He was begging us to believe his lies and not demand answers.
And even at that he needed help from the "moderator".
By the way anyone wanting to buy or sell a house starting Jan 1st will be paying a 3.5% federal sales tax for Obama care

Swamp Fox

MHL get a grip, its not Romney who is spoiled he has WORKED in the business world his entire adult life. Obbie had never created a private sector job using his own money or talents, he has spent his adult life as a "community organizer" living off his grandmothers money....

OhDearLord

You all are ridiculous. Bush spent 8 years screwing this country up. Obama's had 4 years to fix it. I don't know about you but in my experience it takes longer to clean up a mess than it does to make one.

KnuckleDragger

Apperently you are lacking experience then because Ronald Reagan inherited a recession from Carter with an unemployment rate of 10% and turned it around within 2 yrs. Same thing occured with the recession that happened shortly after GW Bush took office, he was able to pull us out of recession in less than three years.

OhDearLord

and the unemployment rate has went down since Obama's first year in office. Yes it's obviously taking longer than it took Reagan but it IS going down. So he obviously must be on the right track. Romney hasn't once given an actual explanation of what his plans are, just that he has them, and we're supposed to believe that these mysterious plans are going to work. If I remember correctly in the Democratic Primary before Obama was even announced as the democratic candidate he said it would take longer than 4 years to fix this countries problems and at that time many people agreed with him. But now that his 4 years is up suddenly everyone forgets that and apparently thinks that the President is magical and is going to make everything all better instantaneously. He is ONE man who has to go through a Congress that is majority Republican in order to get anything accomplished. And as for George W. Bush... when did he pull us out of a recession.. because I surely remember this recession beginning with him.. don't recall it actually ending.

hit the road jack

Obviously you have never looked at what Japan has done since the late 70's or early 80's they have spent themselves into oblivian like we are doing and they have yet to wake up and get out of this rut!all you do is devalue your currency , but then if you have none I guess there is no problem at all,right?

OhDearLord

Okay well number one we were discussing the unemployment rate, not our nation's debt and the devaluation of our currency. Two, I am not voicing my support of Obama I was simply making a comment against the people whose argument is based upon a false belief that our country and economy can be changed overnight. I would rather not vote for either candidate if you read my earlier post, as I don't believe either of them are the best choice to lead our nation. I will vote on November 2nd, but my mind is not fully set on which candidate that will be and I would appreciate not being talked to as if I am an idiot. Thank you.

arnmcrmn

Unemployment numbers are down? Wow, here comes the liberal spin. U6 numbers (Which include underemployed and not employed....whether they are looking for a job or have simply given up) have unemployment at 11%-11.5%. The ONLY reason the number went down .3% last month is because hundreds of thousands of people gave up looking for work and those people are no longer factored in. You cant add 114K jobs and get a .3% reduction......its impossible and I will give you a million dollars if you can do the math for all of us to see....but you have to factor in everyone.....hint hint....it cannot be done so don't try.

betrump

Sorry Knuckles, but you're wrong. August of 1983, unemployment was at 9.5%. He enacted his Reaganomics, which failed miserably. The key to the recovery was the passage of the Tax Equity and Fiscal Responsibility Act, the largest peacetime tax increase ever signed into law by ANY president. Democrat Pete Stark of California sponsored the bill. Many forget that in the last 17 months of George W’s tenure, the stock market saw an historical loss of 58%. This was worse than any rolling 17-month period during the Great Depression. The average annual compound returns for the Dow, S&P500, and NASDAQ have been 17.2%, 25.3% and 31.7% respectively in Obama’s first 3.3 years. This compares to Reagan’s first term results (for the same indices and time period) of 6.86%, 6.16%, and 7.02% respectively. This surpasses all of President Obama's last THIRTEEN predecessors. We've had positive job growth for over two years now. Look at returns in the stock market, months of recession, average unemployment, inflation, income inequality, industrial production and after-tax corporate profits, Obama outperforms in all of these categories compared to Reagan’s first term.
The biggest difference now is the political climate. No one wanted to see Reagan fail. All conservatives want is to watch our President fail. They block him at every crossroad, and bash him even when he does well. It's nothing but partisan crap tinged with racism. How very patriotic of you all to hope America fails just so you can be proven 'right.'

betrump

By the way, the guy you want running our economy into the ground? The business pro? His campaign is $11 Million in debt. This is the guy that said he's gonna create 12 million jobs one minute, and the next saying that the government can't create jobs. DAFUQ?

OhDearLord

Thank you for providing FACTS. I'm fairly young and not afraid to admit that when it comes to Reagan and basically any other president before Clinton I can only rely on what I remember from history classes. Lol

arnmcrmn

Actually our economy was very good under the majority of the Bush years. 2006 is when things started to slip and if you recall in 2007, 2 of the houses were controlled by guess who....Democrats and in 2008 the entire white house was Democratic controlled for 3 years. Guess what happened in 3 years, our debt nearly doubled and all this hope and change was all BS. I mean come on, at least give us something.....anything that Obama has done to give us maybe a small glimmer of hope that the next four years would be better. You cant....he can't..... What amazes me, is that if a school board or your local city managers ran your town the way Obama has, you would all want them fired. But because so many of you are blowhard democrats, you would vote for a polished turd as long as it had the democratic seal of approval on it. Get real to the facts.

OhDearLord

Again.. I am not trying to be Pro-Obama nor have I made up my mind on who I am going to vote for just yet. I am not a "blowhard democrat" and I don't care if I'm a registered Democrat or Republican I am going to vote for whichever candidate I want to regardless of their party affiliation. I don't believe that party affiliation has ANYTHING to do with how a person actually makes their decisions. We could get rid of the party titles altogether for all I care. At this point, as I have already said, I don't believe Obama or Romney are good choices for this position.

arnmcrmn

Nobody knows for sure, but all we have to do is look at the person. Obama has never run a business....he cannot talk without a telepromter or someone in his ear telling him what to say. Does Romney have a magical wand...no. But he is a business man who ran many of business's and made them profitable. Did he outsource jobs to China, he did, but Obama has to with his 900+ regulatory policies passed in the last 4 years....so whos worse. Ill take a business man over a smooth talker any day of the week..

betrump

fact   [fakt]
noun
1.
something that actually exists; reality; truth: Your fears have no basis in fact.
2.
something known to exist or to have happened: Space travel is now a fact.

'Cause you wouldn't know one if it smacked you in the head...

arnmcrmn

fact...you are really good and copy and pasting things off google....continue on

Windy

OhDear - In Obama's OWN words (2009), "If I don't have this done in three years, then there's going to be a one-term proposition." He didn't fix anything, he has only made things WORSE. Now he's changing his mind and wants another four years to screw things up more? A man of his word? WTF?!!?

Cliff Cannon

There is one man who's influence over both Obama as well as Hillary Clinton needs to be mentioned : Saul Alinsky. If you've never read of Mr. Alinsky or did not know Hillary did her college thesis on him or that Mr. Obama used to teach his methods.( they were vividly on display in last nights debate ) Please check into Mr. Alinsky.


Read of his famous book " Rules for Radicals" Check for your self the vast influence it holds over Mr Obama. Then tell yourself ( if you can) it doesn't scare the dung out of you to think of an American President being so influenced by such radical thinking


Obviously,for the die hard Obama fan who can overlook his 20 year's of listening to "Rev" Wright's rascist ranting's and some how believe it did not aFFect him.Saul Alinsky's principals will mean nothing.To the open minded,undecided voter, it will do one thing---make you want to vote

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