Kasich says state should fight gay-marriage ruling

Governor remains against gay marriages.
TNS Regional News
Apr 11, 2014

 

Gov. John Kasich reaffirmed his position on gay marriage yesterday. He’s still against it.

Following an economic-development announcement at AmerisourceBergen in Lockbourne, Kasich said he supports Attorney General Mike DeWine’s appeal of an upcoming ruling by a federal judge that will require the state of Ohio to recognize same-sex marriages performed in other states and areas where it’s legal.

“He is going to appeal it; he should,” Kasich said in response to a reporter’s question. Kasich’s comments on the subject were his first since U.S. District Court Judge Timothy Black announced his intentions on Friday.

DeWine’s office says if Black rules as he said he would, DeWine will appeal his decision to the 6th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals and also seek an immediate stay to prevent the ruling from taking effect.

Black’s ruling is not expected to immediately affect Ohio’s ban on gay marriages inside the state.

“The people of the state, including me, voted years ago on a constitutional amendment to say that marriage is between a man and a woman,” Kasich said. “(Black) has overruled that in some respects, and that’s what a federal judge can do. But it doesn’t change the fact of how people voted.”

Kasich’s likely Democratic opponent in November, Cuyahoga County Executive Ed FitzGerald, said the governor wasted an opportunity to send an important signal that Ohio is a tolerant and welcoming state.

“Not only is accepting the federal ruling the right thing to do, but increasingly businesses, conventions, and major sporting events are considering a state’s openness when deciding whether or not to bring their business here. Gov. Kasich’s announcement today was a step in the wrong direction for Ohio’s LGBT community and for our economy,” FitzGerald said in a statement.

David Pepper, DeWine’s electoral opponent, said he would not appeal Black’s decision because opposing same-sex marriage is indefensible.

“I believe your first and most important duty is to stand for the constitutional rights of citizens,” the former Hamilton County commissioner said. “You just don’t defend the law blindly."

Kasich was visiting AmerisourceBergen’s new distribution center, which is under construction and scheduled to open in the fall, creating about 100 jobs. Dozens of company employees and local officials were on hand for Kasich’s visit.

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By Joe Vardon - The Columbus Dispatch, Ohio (MCT)

Dispatch Reporter Alan Johnson contributed to this story.

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Comments

Foodforthought

Who are you tell tell us who voted on this what to do? Ohio voted and we said NO! Is that hard to grasp? It is two letters, N O, put them together and it means NO. So I will tell those who are gay and want recognition so bad move to a gay state and be happy. If you dont want to move fine, shut the heck up and live by the laws we voted in and stop trying to put your beliefs above that. So is that too hard for you to grasp?

I Can Read

Federal Law trumps State Law and it doesn't matter how many people in the state don't like it, get over it. The United (that's key here, United not single State, say like Ohio) States of America, you should take your sharp reasoning and lead Ohio in secession.

Foodforthought

I can Read ..... next you need to understand. but apparently your lack of this is making you incompetent. Yes fed law does trump so why is weed now legal in a few states when fed law says it isnt? OH boy, so now we have a conflict on what side you stand for huh...... Go back to sleep and save your embarrassment for someone else

I Can Read

You win! I couldn't begin to think of a way to debate your last comparison, in fact it's left me dumbfounded. Well done!!!

tginyc1

Foodforthought: Ohio did say no, several years ago, and polls have shown that people have changed their minds. Should we not have the option to fix a law that people no longer want? We did it with prohibition. And again with this notion that we are trying to force our beliefs on you...we are doing no such thing. If the state of Ohio gives me the right to marry another man your life will not change even a tiny amount. You being uncomfortable with gay people does not get to dictate what we are allowed to do.

Foodforthought

You all keep trying to force your screwed up thoughts down our throats. We did vote and sorry to say, the majority still says no. So again what part of that word NO do you not understand? You want to be gay so be it, stop trying to change our laws for your needs. That is nothing different than druggies wanting to change the law to make drugs legal for their needs. That is not how it works. Now this is a free country so if you want to be in a state that does recognize peter suckers than move there. In fact we wish you would!

tginyc1

You've now resorted to petty name calling and insults. I have been very civil and supported your right not to believe that gay marriage is moral. The least you could do is try to act like an adult while we debate this.

Gdusty86

An ignorant and disgusting comment .

Gdusty86

You move to a redneck state .

truckin

I stand behind the governor on 1 aspect..
He Has Conviction!
Doesn't change his mind based purely on Political popularity.

You all don't remember Obam'r not but a few years ago said
"marriage is between man and woman" now for votes and political popularity . he now is for??? think people..

Does the fed really care about you and your lifestyle or your vote so they can remain in power?????

tomozz66

Well, truck, Times, they be a'changin, just as they always do. You can hate it if you want, and the black man in the whitehouse really doesn't make much difference. After all, how has the president ever affected our lives much anyway? Both you and I can blame any number of things on presidents, past or present, but, it really doesn't effect our day to day lives. If you do think about it, the law of the land still rules no matter who the president is.

tomozz66

I knew you wouldn't have a logical argument. I take it you've heard about the constitution, a little thing called the 14th amendment? All citizens deserve equal rights and protections under the law. By your logic, the civil rights that have been established in the past would not be around now if they were subject to a popular vote. Ask any person of color who lived through the 60's what they think would have happened if equal rights would have been put up for a popular vote. Like it or not, I will not shut the heck up or go away just because I believe in something you don't. Besides, it sounds to me like your just another deluded Fox viewer who's only argument is "our country was founded on Christian values". When actually, the founding fathers went to great lengths to make sure it would never end up being based on any single religion. You can yell all you want, but, in the end, you'll be on the wrong side of history. Is that so hard for you to grasp?

tomozz66

No Foodie, You keep trying to force YOUR screwed up beliefs on the rest of us. Just because we don't happen to believe in your sky daddy and you find gay people "icky" Doesn't give you the right to dictate to anybody. Thankfully, this is a free country and people like you are dying off so the rest of us can move on. You just can't seem to wrap your head around the fact that if you're not in the minority of this subject, you soon will be. You will still be able to live your life as you see fit, just like the rest of us will. Marriage is a right we all should be able to enjoy, not a "Christian" heterosexual privilege. After all, the only thing that you have to hold on to is your Bible, maybe you should just try praying for peace of mind.

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JMOP

Seems the liberals are a very tolerant group, until you disagree with them.

Misconceptions and generalizations towards the oppositioners of gay "marriage", are not old farts, bible thumping, strictly Fox News watching (obviously not, since we are reading a news source called the Norwalk Reflector), paranoid homophobes.

Civil Unions would legally recognize them. With a bunch of suposed Christian Bashers on here, why would the gays want to recognize Christ? If the land made it the law, god would still not bless it. Pointless.

tginyc1

JMOP it seems you are making the same misconceptions and generalizations. I don't believe anyone on this thread has identified themselves as liberal. I know plenty of very conservative people who support gay marriage rights. Also, while some people on here have been throwing out less than civilized comments, I have not, nor will you see me use the word homophobe. I am also not a Christian basher. I believe everyone has a right to their religion and to practice it in the way they see fit provided their practice does not interfere with the rights of others. Obviously there are many people on my side who jump right to name calling and I've certainly received my fair share of negative feedback from people not on my side. It's a shame that we can't have a calm, reasoned debate about issues.

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JMOP

Liberal by definition is:

adjective
1. favorable to progress or reform, as in political or religious affairs.
2. noting or pertaining to a political party advocating measures of progressive political reform.
3. of, pertaining to, based on, or advocating liberalism, especially the freedom of the individual and governmental guarantees of individual rights and liberties.

So what would you call these people who are standing up for gay "marriage"?

Yes, you were civil, and I appreciate that. I rather debate, then name call.

Do you mean your friends are fiscal conservatives?

tginyc1

Yes they are advocating a more traditionally liberal point of view, but that does not necessarily make them liberal. I on occasion drink alcohol, but I am not an alcoholic.

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JMOP

The first step is admitting the problem. Lol, j/k

So if pro-habitation came up for a vote, would you vote for it, or against it?

I'm a social/fiscal conservative. The party with my core beliefs align more with the republicans. My mother on the other hand considers herself a democrat. She has more social conservative views than most democrats, but believes in government. entitlements. Therefore she's actually a ??? But she calls herself a democrat.

Foodforthought

I am far from liberal as you can get. I am a conservative Rebuplican. yes there is no need for name calling. I just like to get people going sometimes and this is a subject that easily does that. Now as for marriage, it has been long defined as a union between a man and a women and I support that. A marriage is not between two same sex people, sorry but it isnt. You can call it a union or whatever word but it isnt a marriage. My point is I am tired of the left trying to destroy what this country is made up and its values and traditions. Fine if we have come to a point where 2 same sex people think it is normal to be together. i personally dont think it is by any means. But that is my view. As for marriage, that word is for men and women. Gays can come up with there own word other than marriage. Stop trying to change what we have had just to suit there own needs.

tginyc1

It doesn't matter how marriage has been defined in the past. Tradition is not a justification for making discriminatory laws. If that were true, then marriages would still be arranged by parents based on what livestock or other goods they had to trade. And as for you argument about gay people coming up with something other than marriage to call it, we've tried civil unions but they still fall short of the benefits of marriage. We are just trying to participate in the established system we have. If somebody wants to propose a bill that gets the government out of the marriage business then I will be glad to have that discussion, but I'm guessing that won't happen any time soon. Also, how does me marrying my boyfriend destroy the country?

44846GWP

Seperate, but equil? No, tried that, didin't work.

Gdusty86

Not a liberal and I don't agree with any of these hateful unchristian like comments .

44846GWP

If the majority voted to ban blacks and whites from being married, that still would not make it right. You can't put a vote to everything. The majority is not always right.

truckin

You say that now, but when you get a majority.....per say Obama care..
Then you change your view and say "Hey the votes are in it's law.
Amazing, people who want mob rule for one thing, but masses wrong on another??

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thinkagain

You were born with organs meant for reproduction. Any other use is just unnatural lust pure and simple. You can choose to be abnormal, if you want to, that is a choice.

“For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another”

Unlike those who pretend to care about homosexuals by accepting this perverted lifestyle, in spite of God’s clear teachings against it, true Christians who speak the truth about homosexuality, do so with the homosexual’s best interest at heart. Not only for in this life, but for the life to come.

Jesus expects righteousness and morality, but rather than give up your disobedience, you’re content to follow the wide path that leads to destruction.

Gdusty86

True ,but that means all sin .porn ,drunkards ,etc....that's why Jesus died for our sins .

Gdusty86

That's their choice ,their path to choose . Hetrosexual s do disgusting sinful things to ,we all have sinned .They want basic rights .I love God and read the bible daily and I remind everyone he whom is without sin ......Gods greatest commandment is to love one another ,it's not for us to judge.

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thinkagain

Let’s see what the Bible really says about judging:

“The mouth of the righteous speaketh wisdom, and his tongue talketh of judgment.” (Psa 37:30)

“With my lips have I declared all the judgments of thy mouth.” (Psa 119:13)

“Open thy mouth, judge righteously...” (Prov 31:9)

Jesus commended Simon, “Thou hast rightly judged.” (Luke 7:43)

“Now, thou son of man, wilt thou judge, wilt thou judge the bloody city? yea, thou shalt show her all her abominations.” (Ezek 22:2)

“But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.” (1 Cor 2:15)

“Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?” (1 Cor 6:2)

“Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?” (1 Cor 6:3)

There are many other passages and verses in the Bible about judging. While God is our ultimate Judge, He has also commanded us to judge according to the Word of God.

Now take another look at that famous verse that is so misquoted and put it in its PROPER context. If you are intellectually honest when looking at this passage, you will find that it is actually teaching Christians to judge, not to refrain from judging!

nakedtruth

I am torn about the gay marriage issue. Here are my opinions: For gay marriage, what is so bad about homosexuals? The discussing part is them having sexual relations, right! For that reason I say let them be married so they can suffer like the rest I us and go without. Now everyone is happy....the reasons I am against gay marriage: those who argue for it keep saying religion has no place in this debate and to separate church and state as the law allows. However, they are saying keep the foundation of marriage out of the argument. Marriage was a religious union of a man an women far before it became a legal union. The entire marriage concept is based on religion and not law. If gays don't want to include religion, then there is no debate. They can't be married. The entire concept of people saying it's ok to be gay because they can't help it, it's a chemical in the brain and natural in other species. Go live with the other species. They also lick themselves, but I prefer toilet paper. It doesn't make it right. One last thing, pedophilia is also a chemical imbalance. With your argument then child molesters should not be punished, but legally allowed to indulge in their nasty behavior so as long as the child consents. You know, it's got to be hard suppressing their urges because not everyone agrees. Think about your stance.

Gdusty86

So much hate on here ,it's Gods place to judge not ours . Gays work in ohio and pay taxes like the rest of us ,food for thought what is a gay state ? Obviously you need to do some research there are many gays in Ohio . The gay games are coming to ohio this summer .I don't really care what people do In their bedrooms .

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