NCS locks down after report of nearby gunman

Norwalk Catholic School (NCS) was on a lockdown Friday after the report of a male pedestrian on Whittlesey Avenue with a shotgun. Amy Hurst, the director of early childhood education, received a tip about the alleged incident from police just after 9 a.m. She said the dispatcher provided the information so she could lock down the NCS Early Childhood Education Center. "One of the dispatchers called the building and my secretary talked to her," Hurst said.
Cary Ashby
Jul 25, 2010

 

Norwalk Catholic School (NCS) was on a lockdown Friday after the report of a male pedestrian on Whittlesey Avenue with a shotgun.

Amy Hurst, the director of early childhood education, received a tip about the alleged incident from police just after 9 a.m. She said the dispatcher provided the information so she could lock down the NCS Early Childhood Education Center.

"One of the dispatchers called the building and my secretary talked to her," Hurst said.

NCS President Walt Klimaski said the male suspect was believed to be near a Whittlesey Avenue grocery store about three blocks east of the school.

"They told her (Hurst) they couldn't find anybody," Klimaski said.

Norwalk Police Chief Kevin Cashen said authorities will not continue to search, and there's no need for citizens to be concerned; in all likelihood, the man was probably going hunting, Cashen said.

Hurst said several officers responded to the business parking lot and searched "all over for a long time after that." She also mentioned that police searched St. Paul Catholic Church because it is open during the day. It also was on lockdown later.

The lockdown, done for the remainder of the school day, was done for safety purposes. Klimaski explained that the NCS procedure involves having all the doors secured, but students still change classes.

"Nobody is coming in and out of the building," he added.

At the State Street building, Hurst said the outside doors and classroom doors, with the students inside, are locked during lockdowns. Staff members are notified immediately, she explained, but the students aren't told the reason for the procedure because they are 3 to 5 years old.

"Everybody handled it very well," Hurst said.

Klimaski said lockdowns are done whenever there is an "outside threat concern."

Comments

rerussell74

"the man was probably going hunting, Cashen said."

A few things about this statement: 1) I'm pretty sure it's not legal to hunt within the corporation limits, 2) the weather wasn't very conducive for hunting on Friday and 3) hunting season is pretty much over (with the exception of crows, coyotes, wild boars and groundhogs, according to ODNR [http://www.ohiodnr.com/wildlife/...

So before the police check anything out to see if there even WAS a guy with a shotgun three blocks away (and even closer to the police station...), they call the school and get everybody in an uproar ? Then they decide that, yeah, it's OK to carry a shotgun down the sidewalk in the middle of the day because he "...was probably going hunting..." ?

I'll choose not to use the word "inept" in this case, but shouldn't there be some criteria to determine if it was a threat or it wasn't ? I appreciate that we want to keep students at all school safe, and there are procedures for a lock down, but inciting a panic before determining if there is a threat seems counterproductive. Fortunately, I heard that the students weren't too alarmed at the whole situation.

Or maybe the Board of Elections told the guy he lived in and should vote in the 1st Ward and it was OK to hunt ?

AlterEgo

Richard, don't be a Dick. In our town it is not illegal to walk down the street with an unloaded shotgun. Unfortunately someone driving by saw the man and induced the panic, not the police department. And if the guy made it to his destination maybe just a few more feet away then I guess it was the motorist who over reacted. My real concern was why didn't they call League street school and advise them of the report? On my map, League Street school is closer to whittleset than St. Mary's.

swiss family

to "Richard" i guess your momma knew exactly what she was doing when she named you..would you please define what it is exactly how you want the police dept to operate, do you want them to wait for something tragic to happen, and then clean up the aftermath. or would you rather that they took a more preventative role, where when they see some kind of upcoming danger, should they try to warn as many people as possible to try to protect as many people as possible???

unfortunately, in todays world, there seems to be alot of school shootings.. so when someone sees a guy with a gun headed down the street in the vecinity of a school, i think that it is definately the correct move on the police dept, to inform the school, .... if they hadn't done that, and "induce panic" as you put it, can you imagine how many people would be upset, and suing the dept, and demanding that someone be fired, because they saw the guy headed toward the school , and no one did anything!!

a police officers job is so hard, we must decide if we want them to be proactive, or reactive.. i would definately want them to do exactly as they did .. and try to prottect as many people as possible, and at least give them a "heads up" as far as what danger is around them..good job guys!!! and thanks for having our backs!!!!

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JOB WHATS THAT SPELL NOT BORED

rerussell74

You missed my point. The police shrugged it off by assuming he was going hunting -- and it isn't even hunting season. If there was a problem -- and THE POLICE (not the tipster) made it so by calling the schools (and not all the schools, since League wasn't alerted), they should have at least conducted a search for the man. Yes, they followed correct procedure and we definitely can't be too careful, but how about some follow-thru to make sure it was or wasn't a threat.

AlterEgo, you are also ASSUMING the gun was unloaded. The police assumed all guns are loaded, which is correct, but if the police didn't check it any further, we don't know if that was the case or not.

As far as the legality of walking down the street with an unloaded gun, try this: Take any unloaded gun (heck, a squirt gun for that matter), walk up and down the street across from any school (or a bank or anywhere), and wait to see what happens.

rerussell74

And Swiss, leave my momma out this. You don't hear me or anyone else making comments about the illegitimate children of the girl on the hot chocolate mix box, do you ?

David Deerest.

Did anyone even think to get a gun from point 'A' to point 'B' it must be carried at some point? Perhaps this fellow bought a gun, and was simply carrying it home. I've bought guns, and I had to carry them to get them where they are to go. Don't get me wrong, I think the police did a fine job as usual, but the guy might have just been carrying it to get it somewhere! Afterall, they don't have legs or wheels!

swiss family

to "Richard, and Deer Dave" would you please run for sherriff, or at least as an assistant to the police dept?? you guys seem to have all of the answers to all of the problems ,and that is definately what we are looking for right now!!!even if it meant that we had to write your names in on the ballot, i for one would be willing to do that.. it would be so comforting to know that finally someone with some sense and insight was doing the job of protecting us all, would make me sleep better at night..unless of course, you are some of those guys that dont really know how to handle a situation when it is happening, but are right there to complain about the way that it was handled...but i'm sure that you guys are the kind of guys that are proactive.. not reactive... right???

David Deerest.

So, swiss...please explain to me where I complianed about the way the situation was handled. Please, point that part out to me as I don't seem to see where I wrote that.

You don't even have a clue as to the difference between pro-active and re-active. I for one am awfully tired of your bashing everyone on here and the name calling when someone doesn't agree with your pointless points of view. And you couldn't spell your way out of a paper bag. I'm done.

rerussell74

The police and sheriff do an excellent job. I want them to continue to keep everyone, including Swiss, safe and I appreciate that they followed procedures to ensure the safety of our children at school.

All I have been saying is, if a guy is walking down the street with a shotgun and you lock-down the schools, why wasn't at least a perfunctory search conducted for the guy ? I'm just not satisfied with a shrug of the shoulders and the explanation that "he was probably going hunting."

Truly, Swiss doesn't really have a point of view - it's just hot-air escaping into the night and waving in the wind as usual.

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DEER DAVE YOU GO I AGREE TOTALLY WITH YOU ABOUT YOUR THE CHOCOLATE FAMILY.

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SORRY I MEANT I AGREE TOTALLY WITH YOU ABOUT YOUR COMMENT TO THE CHOCOLATE FAMILY