Democrats reject GOP offer to reopen part of government

Obama blames Republicans' "ideological crusade” aimed at stopping the new Affordable Care Act from taking full effect.
MCT Regional News
Oct 1, 2013

National parks and monuments closed and hundreds of thousands of federal employees began an unpaid furlough Tuesday, with no end in site of the first government shutdown in 17 years.

President Barack Obama accused Republicans in the House of Representatives of forcing the partial government shutdown because of their “ideological crusade” to stop the new Affordable Care Act from taking full effect as scheduled Tuesday. Republicans countered that they have been trying to keep the government open but that the Democrats refuse to negotiate at all over any change to the health care law.

Obama said he was willing to negotiate on a range of issues, but not under threat of repeal of a law enacted in 2010, upheld by the Supreme Court, and debated in a 2012 election that he won over a Republican who wanted to repeal the law.

He warned that the shutdown, which has furloughed an estimated 800,000 federal workers, could hurt a still fragile economy. “That’s not how adults operate,” he said. “Certainly that’s not how our government should operate. … We’re better than this. Certainly the American people are a lot better than this.”

Looking to ease the pain of the shutdown — or the political fallout — the Republican House offered its newest proposal, this one a series of three votes to restore spending for three popular areas: the Department of Veterans Affairs, the District of Columbia with its landmark monuments, and the National Park Service.

“That's a reasonable, productive way to move forward,” Sen. David Vitter, R-La., said during an outdoor news conference with House and Senate Republicans. But all three bills failed late Tuesday to secure the required two-thirds votes and died in the House.

Senate Democrats insisted on an all-or-nothing approach to reopening the government.

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., dismissed the House proposals as “just another wacky idea from the tea party-driven Republicans” and an effort to “cherry pick some of the few parts of government that they like.”

The White House said it would veto any partial restoration of government funding.

“The president and the Senate have been clear that they won’t accept this kind of game-playing, and if these bills were to come to the president’s desk he would veto them,” White House spokeswoman Amy Brundage said.

White House press secretary Jay Carney said a “piecemeal approach to funding the government is not a serious approach.”

At the Capitol, congressional Democrats and Republicans worked to blame each other for the standoff. The Democratic National Committee created a website and the hashtag GOPShutdown; House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, penned an editorial in USA Today arguing that Obama has refused to negotiate.

The Senate returned to business at 9:30 a.m. Tuesday and promptly killed the House Republicans’ previous proposal — a midnight call for a conference committee of representatives and senators to negotiate their way out of the shutdown. The chamber rejected the idea on a party-line 54-46 vote, putting the ball back in the House’s court.

Boehner accused Senate Democrats of prolonging the shutdown, saying they had “slammed the door on reopening the federal government by refusing to talk.”

He added, “We hope that Senate Democrats — and President Obama — change course and start working with us on behalf of the American people.”

House Republican conferees appointed to the nonexistent conference committee held a news event with a conference table and empty chairs to symbolize the absence of Senate Democrats.

“Clearly the Senate has demonstrated that it is not willing to engage in the legislative process, and that is why I think the House and the speaker took the position of appointing conferees, so that we can actually get down to business and talk through our differences,” said House Majority Leader Eric Cantor, R-Va.

Even tea party conservatives, who have championed the House’s efforts to repeal Obama’s health care law, expressed unease with the idea of a conference committee.

“Part of the reason we’re against Obamacare in the first place was there were a lot of closed-door meetings instead of business being conducted in the light of day,” said Jenny Beth Martin, co-founder of Tea Party Patriots, who said she fears that a House-Senate conference wouldn’t be transparent. “I’ve heard that conference meetings would be open to the public. But I’ve heard that prior to having the meetings there are a lot of back-door deals.”

The shutdown failed to achieve the Republican aim of delaying the start of Obama’s health care law, though various online marketplace exchanges that went live Tuesday reported glitches. Republicans pointed to the array of problems to bolster their case that the health care law should be stopped.

But Obama, who appeared in the Rose Garden with Americans he says have already benefited from the health care law, attributed some of the problems to demand.

He said more than 1 million people visited the online site before 7 a.m. — five times more users than ever have been on Medicare.gov at one time — and caused it to be sluggish.

“Like every new law, every new product rollout, there are going to be some glitches in the signup process along the way that we will fix,” Obama said, noting Apple’s new iPhone had glitches but that no one suggested Apple stop selling them.And he promised, “We’re going to speed this up to handle demand that exceeds anything we expected.”

There appeared to be few ongoing negotiations to end the dispute. Obama was briefed by senior staff Tuesday morning about the shutdown, but he had not spoken to congressional leaders since Monday evening before the closure. Carney said that Obama expects to speak to them in the coming days.

And, Carney said, Obama will continue to press Congress to reopen the government, meeting with business leaders on Wednesday and visiting a small local construction company on Thursday.

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By Lesley Clark, William Douglas and Anita Kumar - McClatchy Washington Bureau (MCT)

©2013 McClatchy Washington Bureau

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Comments

TOPGUN01

We did not Know They Where working?

propman

"President Barack Obama accused Republicans in the House of Representatives of forcing the partial government shutdown because of their “ideological crusade”"
Obamacare IS Obama's ideological crusade
Now Obama is not meeting with any congressmen and Reid is having the Dems in the senate reject any offer at compromise from the house yet they both blame the shut down on the republicans.
Of course nealy all the media is pushing the blame on the republicans too.

Kottage Kat

Big difference between Apple and Obamacare. That was the dumbest analogy, however look who made it.
No one is forced to buy an Apple I-pod,in essance the same is not true of Obamacare.

Contango

Re: "the dumbest analogy"

Agree. "Dumb" on SO many levels.

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swiss cheese kat

Is anybody forcing you to buy an iPhone?
Obama is a sad little man..

Wow1

800,000 government workers not getting a paycheck..... I bet all those other political JAG-off's are still getting paid. GOD BLESS A-MUR-ICA! SMH

JACKEL

You should see the picture of them when it was announced they would receive from $5k to $12k subsidy to offset their small participation in Bozocare !Peloki looks like she is swallowing a duck !

Contango

IMO, the following is very telling about Pres. Obama’s political style:

"Mr. Obama didn't meet one-on-one with Mitch McConnell, the Senate GOP leader, until 18 months into his presidency and doesn't call on him now to collaborate."

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB...

"Leaders" and presidents know when to talk and how and when to compromise.

Someone said that Pres. Obama enjoys the trappings of the office of the presidency; he just doesn't like the job.

In my opinon

I am not quoting anything I read in any article, so I can't highlight any URL's for references. I am sure we could post URL for URL from different news agencies all day. It's just my opinion. It is usually the Dems that cave in and give some concessions, and I give the President a thumbs up for finally standing his ground. What I thought was really cool was the on the street survey Jimmy Kimmel did where he asked people if they were in more support of the "Affordable Care Act" or "Obamacare". All the people interviewed said the Affordable Care Act. They just felt it was more fair than Obamacare. One guy when asked what he didn't like about Obamacare said It's all in the name. Humm.

Contango

Re: "I am not quoting anything I read in any article,"

Doesn't matter. What I quoted was a FACT.

Personal question:

Have you or will you be signing up for health care under the insurance exchanges or are you sheltered from the effects of the ACA for now?

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swiss cheese kat

What planet are you from? Kimmel is a huge obama supporter and I'm sure not all the people interviewed were televised.

Contango

Re: "the street survey Jimmy Kimmel"

So it wasn't edited?

Good that you believe everything you see on TV.

In my opinon

I think some people don't understand..The Affordable Care Act was signed into law 2 years ago, not yesterday! It should in no way be part of any bargaining tool. The republicans can stop this with a simple pass of a clean bill and dicker on the debt ceiling by itself. Speaker Cruz, ooops Boehner should do his job and bring a vote to the floor. This is a do nothing congress with the LOWEST approval rating in history who deserve to be voted out of office. I you went to work everyday and did nothing, how long would you have your job. Obama was voted in for a second term despite the efforts to suppress voting in some States. Just remember Republicans didn't was Medicare either.

Contango

Re: "The Affordable Care Act was signed into law 2 years ago"

Correction:

The Affordable Care Act was passed in both houses of Congress, on a partisan vote using legislative gimmicky.

First the Democrats argued that it was a "mandate” and NOT a “tax."

Then SCOTUS ruled that it was a “tax” and NOT a "mandate."

Then the Democrats said: Yea, that’s what we meant; it’s a “tax.”

Constitutionally, Congress has the right to repeal taxes - at any time.

buckeye15

Correction: The Affordable Care Act was signed into law on March 23, 2010---over 3.5 years ago. Calling it whatever else you want, and making up stories won't change that.

Contango

Re: "March 23, 2010---over 3.5 years ago."

Good to see that you're on top of Obama☭are trivia.

In case you missed it, I was simply quoting your fellow Obama sycophant.

And yes, SCOTUS ruled that it was a tax.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/O...

In my opinon

I am giving my opinion! It doesn't change anything if it was 2 or 3 yrs. Supreme Ct. ruled it constitutional and they have had a tremendous showing for the first day of the Affordable Care Act. This is a good thing for American's in general. I have a pre existing illness and my premiums are out of control. If I can reduce them by $241.00 a month you bet I am. Like I have said so often, you should go to Washington and fix all their problems. Always blaming the Dem's or the President. It doesn't change anything if it was 2 or 3 yrs. Supreme Court ruled it constitutional. Like it or not, it's clear that fault for the current government shutdown lies with the rumpa$$, radicalized, tea party-beholden congressional Republicans who have no regard for the legislative process, the country's credit rating, political traditions, or the U.S. Constitution they supposedly revere. Blame them.

rbenn

Voter suppression? Wow too much al Sharpton in your tv viewing. But consider this, there were places in this country that had 148% voter turnout, how does that happen? Always lame comments from lame liberals

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swiss cheese kat

Yep.

In my opinon

Why of all the cable channels that reported voter suppression and redistricting and who support President Obama and his Affordable Care Act would you choose to comment that I have to much Al Sharpton in my TV viewing? Just wondering, but think I know.

rbenn

AHHHH the race card rears its ugly head, really? That's ok its all the lame libs can muster for any argument.

In my opinon

You didn't answer my question,,

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swiss cheese kat

You obviously don't understand how politics work In my opinon. You couldn't even spell your username right.

Howdydoody

opinon or opinion! Why do you get such a kick out of correcting spelling? I have had my spelling corrected at times. Maybe a slip or just honest mistake. I am sure he or she is not insinuating they know all about politics or how every aspect of it work and neither do you. Did you know when Medicare was put in place republicans didn't want it either and i'll bet you or someone you know are getting benefits from it. The republican's have tried 40 something times to appeal the Affordable Health Care Act with no luck so I can only surmise that more people want it than don't. It helps me with my prescriptions and my great grandaughter is still on her parents ins while she goes to collage. Give it a chance. I have seen this user name for some time and you just found the mistake. Humm, something he or she posted must have caught your attention. I am to old to go back and correct any spelling errors if there are any so you will have to live with it.

In my opinon

@Hoody...Thanks, I thought this was a forum to voice ones OPINION but if it isn't the one that some want to hear you get attacked, even if it is for spelling errors, LOL
From now on I will just keep my opinions to myself.

ladydye_5

Vote EVERYONE them out next election. Make TERM limits just like the President. NO more career politicians. Cut their pay. If everyone else is getting no pay and in a shut down, they don't get paid either. Heck make it like jury duty! LOL.

Dr. Information

Those silly Dems say that the Republicans do not care about the working class. Humm, they just wanted to put people back to work by opening up something and those silly Dems said NO!

They do not care about you or I, all they care about is that demon in an egg that is about to hatch called the ACA.

itsnotme

Clearly the ACA is not ready to be implemented. All the Republicans want right now is that the exemption granted to Congress be taken out and that the individual mandate be delayed for one year...you know, the same delay granted to businesses. For Obama to not even sit down to talk with Republican leaders about this is inexcusable. He has no problem negotiating with Syria, Iran, Russia, etc., but sitting down with Republicans is off the table? He is ridiculous.

Uputwhatwhere7

We just need a good old fashioned revolution. Fire em all! They don't deserve to lead this great country. Not a single one of em.

JACKEL

When Reid ran for his Senate Seat he was a Veterans Advocate, now he is leading a drive not to open Veteran Parks.Google Harry Reid Scandals ,he has more than most !

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