UPDATED WITH VIDEO: Norwalk woman expected victim

She left a detailed suicide note.
Joe Centers
Jul 1, 2013

Authorities believe a body found in a van consumed with flames on Lovers Lane early Sunday morning is that of a 33-year-old Norwalk woman, who apparently committed suicide, Erie County Sheriff Paul Sigsworth said.
The owner of the van, Roberta L. Vick, 17 E. Willard Ave., hadn’t been seen in about a day, he added.
Sigsworth said investigators located a license plate in the debris, and learned the vehicle’ owner’s identity.
Sigsworth said while authorities believe the person, who has yet to be identified, committed suicide, Erie County Coroner Dr. Brian Baxter will rule on the official cause of death —  a process Sigsworth said “will take some time.”
Sigsworth said deputies called the Norwalk Police Department, who contacted the suspected victim’s parents. Authorities were granted permission to search the home and found a suicide note on a living room table.
The “very detailed” note  contained “some indication that she intended to kill herself and how she intended to do that,” Sigsworth said.
“It’s consistent with what we found on Lovers Lane,” he added.
When asked about a possible motive, Sigsworth said the note referred to “personal issues.” Sigsworth said NPD records indicate the woman has made prior suicide attempts within the last nine months.
The body will be sent to the Lucas County Coroner’s office in Toledo for an autopsy.
The Huron County Sheriff’s office received a 9-1-1 call at about 6 a.m. Sunday from a passing motorist who reported a vehicle on fire in the Milan state wildlife area. Firefighters from the Huron River Joint Fire District and Milan Township Fire Department responded. It was then determined the incident happened in Erie County.
Erie County Sheriff’s deputies responded. Sigsworth said initial signs pointed to a homicide — the body was in the back of the Ford Windstar minivan, the vehicle was “completely consumed” and the license plates weren’t visible. Sigsworth added that based on the level of heat and comments from the first people on the scene, that an accelerant might have been used.
Sigsworth said officials from the state fire marshall’s office, who responded, will send samples of debris found to the state arson lab. Technicians there will try to determine if traces of an accelerant are present.

Comments

Cliff Cannon

I had the great privilege of being her Dad's friend in high school. Then, we had beautiful daughters, the same age and I always thought very highly of my friends daughter.

Tonight, as this horrible unspeakable tragedy unfolds with the loss of his daughter. My heart, my prayers as well as my tears go out to my friend and his grandchildren in this maximum hour of grief

Kottage Kat

Prayers and God's comfort to her family and friends.
I am appalled at the crass and totally uncalled for remarks. Ispeed, how sad 2BU

fml

Ispeed2_69, YOu really have no right to say anything about Berta. she was a second mom to me, and she was going through so much, which you have no idea of. So I and her children would appreciate it if youd keep your mouth shut and your opinions to yourself. You say you knew her, well obviously you didnt know her that well. YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT A LOSER? GO LOOK IN THE MIRRIOR!! OBVIOUSLY YOU HAD NOTHING BETTER TO DO THAN SIT HERE AND DEGRADE A WOMAN THAT YOU DON'T KNOW(WETHER U THINK U DO OR NOT! KARMA IS A BITCH AND 1 DAY YOU WILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH SOMETHING, COPE WITH SOMETHING...THEN AND ONLY THEN WILL YOU,MAYBE BE JUDGED THE WAY YOU HAVE NO PROBLEM JUDGING SOMEONE THAT IS DEAD AND CANNOT DEFEND HERSELF...I PRAY THAT GOD JUDGES YOU ACCORDINGLY, AND THAT YOUR FAMILY DOESNT HAVE TO SUFFER LIKE HERS DOES! You will realize, one day maybe, that you are not the only person in this world.

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BlueAngel

Moderators have removed this comment because it contained Personal attacks (including: name calling, presumption of guilt or guilt by association, insensitivity, or picking fights).

TattooDiva

WOW!!! NR, where are your moderators on this??? This is absolute BS!!! Ispeed2, you need help!!! You are an absolute disgrace to humanity!!! This is tragic regardless if you knew her or not...I did know her, and I do know that she had some problems, but no matter what she was ALWAYS concerned for the well being of others, regardless of what she was going through at the time...aside from all that, the fact of the matter here now is that she left behind 3 beautiful children that should not have to look back and see a**holes like you bashing their mother!!! IF this was suicide, it was probably because of people like you that pushed her to this point!!! Sleep with the angels now, Berta...You WILL be missed by so many...<3

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BlueAngel

@TATTOODIVA.........OMG. I can not believe what you just said here...where was her well being for her kids OR others on sunday morning?? You can not blame it on people on here or anyone else but her for that matter for her decison... geesh... WOW...

TattooDiva

I am not blaming it on anyone on here, or anyone else...I'm just simply saying, had she had a little more support from others, rather than turning there backs on her, maybe it wouldn't have come to this...Ultimately it was her decision to take it this far...and now those that knew, and loved her have to suffer the heartache...and people like ISpeed2_69 just make matters worse!!! I was always taught if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say it at all...so that is it...I am done because this is just pissing me off more and more....

TattooDiva

I am not blaming it on anyone on here, or anyone else...I'm just simply saying, had she had a little more support from others, rather than turning there backs on her, maybe it wouldn't have come to this...Ultimately it was her decision to take it this far...and now those that knew, and loved her have to suffer the heartache...and people like ISpeed2_69 just make matters worse!!! I was always taught if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say it at all...so that is it...I am done because this is just pissing me off more and more....

Ispeed2_69

there's my compassion... No more posts from me... why would moderators remove the truth? Fact of the matter is you cant handle the facts. As far as me being a disgrace to humanity you are entitled to your opinion just as I am free to speak in any form or fasion I choose as long as it doesnt threaten anyone or demean our government/constitution and/or take away your right of free speech. I truly hope for the best for her children and her family no one deserves this and anyone who feels that helpless that they choose to die in such a fashion is unbelievable. I just think it would have been soo much easier to face the music so what if you had to jump thru hoops with human services and juvenile court so what if you have to get a JOB SO WHAT SO WHAT so much better than not being here at all everyone has issues we just dont kill ourselves when it gets rough I truly wish she didnt do this dont get me wrong I feel for all involved

BlueAngel

@Ispeed2_69....my comment was deleted and I have NO idea why.... it is the girls own fault she is where she is today...not yours, not mine.. not anyone's on here... you nailed it just right....they can not handle the truth!!

rkovach

ISpeed, you really need to keep your comments to yourself. If you dont have anything nice to say then dont say it. Maybe your mom never taught you that. You are no one to judge anybody for any reason. Its all good though cause karma will get you just hope its not as bad as a family member taking their own life. I wouldnt wish that on anyone. I have had two family members and one friend that have tragically taken their own life. Maybe you need to talk to God some. Rest in peace my friend and cousin you will be missed by many!!!

heartofgold

rkovach - I lost my dad to suicide almost 4 years ago. My mom and I have started a support group in Willard and in Tiffin for those of us left behind. I'd like to invite you to that group when/if you would like to join other survivors. No professionals, just people like you and I that have lost someone. www.northcentralsos.org

onegirlarmy

Why the he// is there a picture of Curtis Clinton up here!!??!!
Heart of gold !?!!
I think not!

heartofgold

I have no idea - I just deleted it. I uploaded the logo to the North Central Survivors of Suicide support group and that dude's picture ended up there. *shrugs*

onegirlarmy

Thanks for clearing that up.
And thanks for deleting the picture.
That guy there needs a good old style lynching at the Erie Co. Fairgrounds!!!

Kottage Kat

I did not know this lady, whatever her life is moot point
Her death has left a grieving family. Please if u have once ounce of compassion in your bitter ugly heart, use it.
Thank u.
It is far better to stay silent and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

happyfeet64

Kat-true words. As I said when I commented on the comments @ SR the other morning,she does have kids and even though they may not be reading these comments now, at some point in time they may and for anyone on here, whether you knew her or not or your want to exercise your right to free speech, please please consider her family esp. her CHILDREN when commenting on Roberta and/or her life. I spoke the morning after to one of her daughters and she told me that all she wanted was to give her one last hug and tell her one last time she loved her.And to give some of you a different perspective, I really want you to think about that and something else she shared, that waking up to the cops at your door to break the news that your mom killed herself and that she set herself on fire to do it.... well put that in your head and heart and put yourself in the KIDS shoes and then try to condone your actions of posting the nasty and cruel comments concerning this woman,her past actions or her life and then let me know how you can sleep at night. Because, there's only one reason to post those comments and it's for self gratification,nothing else.

jumparound77

Rip Roberta. People are out of control on here.

seitzlady

R.I.P. Roberta. My family's deepest sympathy goes out to her children, her sister & to Bob & Maria, her parents. They are the ones left behind & now are the ones who are truly suffering.

Ispeed2_69

that right there is exactly why I'm so angry seitzlady..thank you for stating it as such... the current situation with the kids only had to be temporary providing she did a few things required prove herself. It was all temporary not permanent by no means. I am truly sorry she's gone but there had to be a better way that didn't leave such a disparaging void in these children's lives. I feel so bad for the young boy, no names for his sake, how do you console him... only time can heal this... I'm sorry for being cruel yesterday but this wasn't the answer

happyfeet64

And who the f*** are you to make it seem so easy and simple? Have you EVER been in a situation like that? HOW DARE YOU!!!!! It's not so simple- yeah she had things to do to regain custody but and I say BUT,if your head is already f****d up then she falls into a major depression where she beats herself up telling herself she's an effed up mom, and then those little demons keep at you day and night 24/7 and constantly are in your head telling you everything you did wrong, etc.that is a pain and hurt I wouldn't wish on my enemy cuz you see whoever you are, I'VE BEEN THERE a few times and although I was able to pull myself back from it,she wasn't. And yes suicide is a selfish act but until YOU have been in someone's head or your own with those thoughts, and gone through all the horrible, horrible things that your thoughts can perpetuate- then YOU have NO RIGHT to try to trivialize anyone and why they do things like this! SHAME ON YOU!!!!

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life_in_44857

Shame on you for talking sh** on a person that is no longer here to defend herself. Get a life.

Ispeed2_69

I do have a life idiot. Isnt that what this is all about? Theres a huge difference between talking sh** and talking the real deal holyfield... I personally have watched this circus act for well over ten years now.... Since jefferson street for who's keeping track. Al beit awful that she whacked herself no one that knows her can ever say it wasnt inevitable only a matter of time. She decided that, the venue and the method which signified the way she lived her life.

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