READERS FORUM - Where's justice?

If the city of Norwalk can't work with Berry's to allow minimal drinking in Bresson Park (so the city will not be seen as favoring business), how can they justify closing down Main Street for 24 hours in the middle of the week to showcase Summit Raceway Park? It would seem to me we are working a double standard here. The claim by administration that "Thunder in the Streets" brings people to Norwalk is probably legitimate. On the other hand, disrupting the business of 30 or so businesses on Main Street is what? The request by Doug Berry to allow him to sell a couple of drinks to bring more people into that area of Main Street seems to me to be a proper business request also. He and his employees are required to pay taxes to the city, which in turn helps the city coffers.
Norwalk Reflector Staff
Jul 25, 2010

If the city of Norwalk can't work with Berry's to allow minimal drinking in Bresson Park (so the city will not be seen as favoring business), how can they justify closing down Main Street for 24 hours in the middle of the week to showcase Summit Raceway Park? It would seem to me we are working a double standard here. The claim by administration that "Thunder in the Streets" brings people to Norwalk is probably legitimate. On the other hand, disrupting the business of 30 or so businesses on Main Street is what?

The request by Doug Berry to allow him to sell a couple of drinks to bring more people into that area of Main Street seems to me to be a proper business request also. He and his employees are required to pay taxes to the city, which in turn helps the city coffers.

As to the argument that the city can't change the law regarding the use of alcohol in a public park is ridiculous. Government can and has taken upon itself any and all the power it wants in order to satisfy its agenda at any particular time. Eminent domain rulings are now in use for economic development. Businesses are forced to be tax collectors for the government through sales tax, income tax, Social Security, Medicare, unemployment tax, business fees, etc. Main Street building owners were forced to pay for the Uptown renovation project a few years ago. The list could go on.

Government is great at pushing itself upon the individual and business, but heaven forbid it do something to help someone out. Remember that no government can create jobs, but they sure as heck can destroy them.

Ric Hills

Norwalk

To all Clarksfield Township residents:

There will be an open, public meeting at the Clarksfield Community Hall at 7:30 tonight concerning our zoning changes. If you don't want to be told what and when you can do as we believe is our right, you should come and make your wants and wishes known. The zoning board has worked on these so-called "changes" for the betterment of our community for years. It also means we are being told how "they" think we should live.

Please come and express your ideas and wishes so our trustees know how we want them to vote on the package. There are 80 pages of definitions and rules for us to follow. Voice your own opinions.

Jean Reep

Clarksfield Township

Comments

Just wondering....

Point taken about downtown Norwalk, Berry's and Thunder in the Streets.
It doesn't seem right that much of downtown access should be closed off for a day.
I've always wondered exactly how much Norwalk Raceway Park, or whatever it's called now, actually does for the city. It's outside the city limits, so there's no business city tax. How about school tax dollars, do they go to Norwalk or Western Reserve?
It brings people to the area, but how many of those people stay on the grounds and use a camper or RV?

A.E. Van Vogt (...

Re: Justice. "As in all Utopias, the right to have plans of any significance belonged only to the planners in charge." - Jane Jacobs, The Death and Life of Great American Cities.

taxpayer (Anonymous)

What are you people thinking? How in the world can you even compare Thunder in the streets to Berrys. Maybe you folks who are so gunghoe on Berrys serving alcohol need to leave main street for a few hours on the weekend and see what business the racetrack brings to the city of Norwalk. The racers support the grocery stores, Walmart, Kmart, the gas stations,carry outs, part stores, fast foods, bars, motels, and I am even sure some go to Berrys. This issue with Berrys is nuts. Over the years Berrys never had alcohol. They had good food. I went there to eat and always took my out of town family there also when visiting. Well their food has changed and last 4 and I said 4 times it was awful. So guess what when I hear Berrys it does not leave a good taste in my mouth. I now take out of town family to a local club who has best dinners in town. Maybe all you backers of this issue better sit back and not compare Berrys to the race track who do more for this town then Berrys ever thought of. Maybe you better think before you open a can of worms and kill Thunder in the streets that the track pays dearly for to entertain the citizens of Norwalk for a day. Maybe all you Berry followers could dip in your pockets with Berrys and entertain Norwalk for the day at the class act style that the raceway does. But I won't hold my breath for that to happen. Oh another thought for all you Berrys supporters with all the time on your hands why don't you post people on every corner of downtown and find out in any given day how many cars that are parked on the front of the streets are actual in the businesses that are downtown and not in the courthouse. Downtown business has the ideal time to showcase their business for Thunder in the streets. I bet Berrys will have business tonight and I bet he won't say I am sorry if you here for Thunder in streets you can't eat here.

markplace (Anon...

I would like to see an ORGANIC farmers market set up at the park every weekend, for a day or so!Not flea market stuff, but ORGANIC foods, produce& such.Wouldn't be a dream come true if there was a decently priced organic market set up at bresson park?I wish some local farmers would get the hint& start growing organic!You can truely taste the difference,& it's a lot healthier for us!

marketplace (An...

What happened to the et in marketplace? I surely don't know.So I'm sorry!

ok (Anonymous)

If Berry wants to get a permit and use thepark for a weekend then he should be allowed to. Thunder is the streets if for 1 week. Berrys in the park is forever. Im very understanding but Im having a hard time grasping the argument that we should take away a public park from the citizens and give it to a private business for profit. If this doesn't stop soon, Ill vote against every elected official in Norwalk.

A.E. Van Vogt (...

Has the city positively determined that no one is allergic to any of the plants or flowers located in Bresson Park? Those plants could be a lawsuit in the making.

A.E. Van Vogt (...

Has the city determined positively that the newspaper boxes located in Bresson Park are safe? What if someone especially a child would happen to cut themselves while extracting a newspaper and require stiches? Those newspaper boxes are a potential liability and should be removed for the safety of the community.

oh yea (Anonymous)

Has anyone determined positively that AE VAN Vogt, makes any sense?