Norwalk working on razing blighted homes

One of the homes on the fast track for razing is 21 Woodlawn Ave., which recently was destroyed by fire.
Scott Seitz2
Dec 29, 2012

 

A number of blighted Norwalk properties should be demolished in the upcoming months.

Mark Schloemer, safety-service director, said the city is working with two different programs on these demolitions. A story about this subject was published in Saturday's Reflector.

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Contango

@ hit the road jack:

Don't know about that one. I'll ask my father.

I was "real" young, but I remember goin' down to my Dad's office on Hester St.

At that plant, they made floor mats and fashioned carpeting for cars.

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hit the road jack

I may be wrong but I'm pretty sure she said the old bowling alley building was where she worked sewing seats and who knows what else.

Contango

Not arguing with ya. Maybe they had other locations - I don't know.

I just know that when my father refers to "Fisher's" he means the old Hester St. location.

Cliff Cannon

@ hit the road jack: Good morning. I am betting here that both you and 'Contango' are correct on the location's of Fishers' plants. Obviously,don't know the years of operation. However,they no doubt were go-go times for the company,when extra space,would be needed.So going oFF-site,yet very close, would be a natural thing to do.


I have,I hope, an interesting tidbit to add about your Mom's factory.


Fanny Farmer used to pack their bulk candy's into actual tin boxes. Circa 1968 they decided to go with disposable cardboard boxes for bulk and do away with the cost and hassle of reusable tin.


Needless to say. They had ton's and ton's of these tins. Which they had been storing in your Mom's by then empty factory. So Dad was given the job of taking all these tins to the dump and I being his helper got to go with him. ( I remember a sign saying " Yingling mfg." being there,if that stirkes any bells)


The dump was the old one by Baines park. Remembering dumping these tons of tins as well as knowing how wasteful Americans have always been, Led me to this conclusion: Old landfills will someday be 'mined' and hence have value,maybe even great value. The trick,of course,is the technology for getting out the goodies,while leaving the junk.


Thanks for rejoining, a conversation on Norwalk,that I have enjoyed immensely. Great day to you

Kottage Kat

Joe hilman

onegirlarmy

@CC...flame first....do you have anything for rent?

Cliff Cannon

@onegirlarmy: " flame first " Yeah,that's how I believe the older generation, passes the torch that-- inevitably has to be passed--- to the younger generation. If they don't teach them, as well as boost their confidence every chance they get.


As to your question. May I say this ? Being a truckdriver,I've conducted business in many a unique place. However,none as unique as this.


So,before,I answer your question,I will ask this ? You write your opinion's as well as idea's for improving Norwalk. Then get ahold of me in the conventional fashion. Then together,we will go to work on setting you up in a home,deal ?

onegirlarmy

Great deal Cliff!!!...i gotcha...none as unique as i:)
As far as the torch and the flame,Norwalk needs to support all of the young generation and that means from all walks of life,i wish there was a law saying who is even capable of becoming a parental torch holder,as some never have a chance from the start.
I could go on for miles on some peoples morals but for the most part families and people here are good.
I always wanted and dreamed of them doing something incredibly huge with the old human services building,it was a big part of my younger life filled with love and laughter from people who lived and worked there not even my family.
I see they are working on it but unsure of it's future.
As a parent and grandparent i passed on empathy and kindness.
We can all make a difference.
Happy New Year!!

Cliff Cannon

@onegirlarmy: " We can all make a diFFerence " Indeed. Thanks for the free advertising :)

Happy New Year to you and yours

TheGravyWhisperer

... where will all the crack folk go? ...

Farmer Drew

I'm a descendant of that Fisher-Titus marriage and though I have 'toured' Norwalk with both of my grandfathers (William A. Fisher and Carl F. Bachle, both born in Norwalk) and my parents, I have a lot of questions about the Fisher Titus presence and ancestry in Norwalk. Like, I've heard that Lura's dad, a wealthy Norwalk businessman, funded the initial start-up for the first two Fisher brothers who went to Detroit (Alfred and Charles?), but, what is known about the rest of the Titus/(Theissen? That was news to me--though I've seen the gravestones in the Norwalk cemetery)? And the seven brothers' father, Laurence, supposedly had a carriage-making business in town (I saw the place where my grandfather pointed to as we came to the historical records building.) But, what became of Laurence's brothers and sisters (my great, great, great grandfather, Andreas Fischer [later 'Fisher'] who came from the Black Forest region of what is now "Germany" with his brother, is on Norwalk tax rolls starting in 1840; I'm assuming he had more than one child)? Also, are there any of the other Fisher/Fischer and/or Titus/Theissen descendants left in Norwalk?
I see that Contango and Cliff Cannon have memories or family members with memories that go back a ways. I'd love to know more--if you have the time and interest to help. Also, yes, my great grandfather and his wife were always quite proud of all of their architectural and art contributions to Detroit and Ohio, but none more than your hospital, there in Norwalk. (I was fortunate to know them--I was 11 when he died in 1969 and 18 when she died in 1976.)

Cliff Cannon

Good Morning Farmer Drew : What a pleasure to read your story. I will gladly help to the best of my ability,however,I must confess,it isn't much.


Starting in Norwalk.Yes,Laurence Fisher ( I have no knowledge of a funding connection to Lura Titus Fisher' Dad ) had a carriage making business here in Norwalk. On the main drag ( rt.250/Benedict ave. ) just south of downtown and right before the road split's.


You will find the Fisher bros. tribute. It is pretty good sized and has a few pictures as well as some brief info. ( including that William & Lura Titus Fisher donated to the hospital)


There are in fact,quite a number of Fisher's here. As well as a few Fischer's and I think, you could find a Theissen or Thisen as well. How are they related ? I know not.


As you perhaps read, I repeated the local 'urban legend' that the Fisher " brothers" donated money for our hospital with the caveat that their --- Mother's maiden name--- be included in the hospital name. Thankfully,I was quickly corrected. With credit given where it is due---your great-grandparents William & Lura Titus-Fisher.


Locally,a legend by the name of John Ernsthausen (who started & owned " Norwalk truck lines ") often get's credit for helping to get your great-grandparents involved in the hospital.


Although,that too could be 'legend' because perhaps,you've read ( if not the article is in these pages around Dec. 1) that the seven Fisher bros. are being inducted into the St.Paul high school hall of fame this month. That article will speak of Fisher contribution's that funded major portions of St.Paul.


That's cool,that some Fisher's are buried here as I did not know that either.As for the bros. leaving it was Fred & Charles who went first to Det. to get their start. Speaking of the 4 Fisher daughters. I too have wondered about them,yet having no clue as to what happened in their lives.


In Detroit, 4 of them lived in the " Boston-Edison " housing development ( including your great-parents at 111 Edison ave.) just north of the 'Fisher building', with Fred living just outside the development.


If you pull up that housing development. You'll get a thumbnail sketch of the Fisher's who lived there as well that is where I found out their mother Margret Theissen Fisher's maiden name.


Not knowing where you live,I'll add this. The Fisher building was built in the geograpical center of the city. G.M.'s H.Q. was right across the street. Just east on 'Grand blvd.' one will find " Motown's " former H.Q. which sat at the top of what was primarily the black entertainment district.


So couple the theater presence of 'Fisher theater',with the Det. opera house ( also very close) with the clubs of the entertainment dist. and you had one hopping spot " back in the day" along as it's known locally " The blvd."
If you haven't visited the Fisher bldg.---you need to ! It is simply put: An art-deco masterpiece. Although,a little thing called the " Great Depression " stopped the other 2 towers that were to accompany " the Golden tower of the Fisher building ". It is still breath takingly beautiful and in reading the fresco's on 'truth,'beauty',etc you will find ,I believe your family's mantra's.


Also, don't feel scared if you tour the " Boston-
Edison " area. Yes,it is surrounded by blight. Yes, 'Highland Park', where one of your family's most famous plants ( as well as the Model-T plant )was,butt's against it and can be described as a hades hole.It is still very worth a tour.


Despite babbling on and on. I hope,my extremely limited information was of some help. Thanks for writing,you sure made my day and I would love to know which Fisher's are buried here. Great day to you

Cliff Cannon

@ Farmer Drew : In re-reading your note.I realize I totally blew your questions. You want Norwalk information on the Fisher family and I posess very little.


However,being as excited as a teenager on their first date,when I first read your note. I quickly went into Detroit mode as well. Which,no doubt, you know forwards and backwards. Sorry about that and do wish,I had more to oFFer than 'public knowledge' on your family.


Look very forward to your response,so that we here in Norwalk can learn more

Cliff Cannon

@ Farmer Drew : You are sure enhancing my education. Checked into more " Fisher news " for you and was amazed by what I found.


We have a " Sorrowful Mother Shrine " here. Been in it,been by it ton's of times.Never thought once about how it got there. Geuss who paid for it ?


Then out behind the shrine is one of our oldest cematary's. Geuss,what it is known as ( at least to the people,I spoke with ) the " Fisher cematary " and this is apparently,where you visited your ancestor's graves.


The cematary is ancient. It is loaded with graves from the 1800's and it apparently ( and I use that word,because I personally,do not know for sure)was the cematary for one of our first catholic church's.


So here's hoping,you found out something new about your Fisher family today. I know,I did, thanks to you

Farmer Drew

I'm a descendant of that Fisher-Titus marriage and though I have 'toured' Norwalk with both of my grandfathers (William A. Fisher and Carl F. Bachle, both born in Norwalk) and parents, I have a lot of questions about their presence and ancestry in Norwalk. Like, I've heard that Lura's dad, a wealthy Norwalk businessman, funded the initial start-up for the first two Fisher brothers who went to Detroit (Alfred and Charles?), but, what is the rest of the Titus/(Theissen? That was news to me--though I've seen the gravestones in the Norwalk cemetery). And the seven brothers' father, Laurence, supposedly had a carriage factory in town (I saw where my grandfather pointed to as we came to the historical records building. But, what became of his brothers and sisters (my great, great, great grandfather, Andreas Fischer [later 'Fisher'] who came from the Black Forest region of what is now "Germany" with his brother, is on Norwalk tax rolls starting in 1840)? Also, are there any of the other Fisher/Fischer and/or Titus/Theissen descendants left in Norwalk? I see, Contango and Cliff Cannon have memories or family members with memories that go back a ways. I'd love to know more--if you have the time and interest to help. Also, yes, my great grandfather and his wife were always quite proud of all of their architectural and art contributions to Detroit and Ohio, but none more than your hospital, there in Norwalk. (I was fortunate to know them--I was 11 when he died in 1969 and 18 when she died in 1976.)

Contango

@ Farmer Drew:

IMO, probably best to seek out the Firelands Historical Society as well as the Firelands Museum and perhaps local historian Henry Timmon.

Also, to my knowledge, the Norwalk Library has old newspapers on microfiche and those may be of some value to you.

Spend a few "bucks" while in town, it could use the revenue.

Cliff Cannon

@ Contango : I know you won't be checking your computer right now. After all it is less than 2 hours till the kick-oFF for the Packers play-oFF game,so no doubt,your focused on the " Pack"


Still,here's hoping your still following this article,because I had a couple of question's,that I'd like your observastions on. So kindly let me know,tomorrow after your Packer victory party. If your around and open to those questions.

P.S. Mr. Family Enjoyed,your well written commentary. Can't respond now. It is Packer time here :)

swiss family

I have an idea.. with all due respect, Cliff , why don't you share your PHONE number with these 2 people and they share theirs with you and you can talk and reminisce all you like, SOMEWHERE ELSE??????

I am not saying that your conversation is not entertaining, but what all of this has to do with Norwalks deterioriating buildings , is beyond me..

I was under the impression that it was not acceptable to wander so far off topic, in fact I remember blogs that were blocked many times for wandering too far off topic, and if you you can read the last numerous blogs from ya'll then try to guess what the actual topic was supposed to be about, I trust that no one would ever guess that it was about deterioriating Norwalk properties.

"Drew" Norwalk does have a real local historian, who would actually know the real facts, and could actually put you in tune with the answers you seek.. his Name is Henry Timmans... in fact he has written many local history books which are for sale locally, that would fill you in on all of out local history, and the people and places that made us who we are.

why don't you 3, and anyone else who is so interested in this meet somewhere to discuss this? or why not write another knowledgeable letter to the editor explaining all of the facts abd figures and information that you seem to e want to share.. I appreciate the fascinating history lesson, but I also wanted to hear what people thought about the topic at hand, and am disappointed that you have changed that topic , and started a new one.or perhaps, you guys could do the research and write a book about this.. so that everyone who wants to hear about it, bad enough will be willing to buy a record of all of your vast information. Like mI said.. I am not saying I am not entertained, I just think that you deliberately swayed to so many other different topics, everything from KFC, to Detroit, to the teens killed in the car crash, to .......on and on...and what any of that has to do with the actual topic at hand, The Deterioriating homes locally, is beyond me... with all due respect

Farmer Drew

Swiss Family, I apologize for leading the discussion further astray. Being a fairly inexperienced Internet user, I'd just begun my search for my family history when I came upon this article. I actually remember the houses my grandfathers (Fisher and Bachle) pointed to in Norwalk on my three trips down there in the early 1980s and the one photographed above jogged a whole bunch of memories. Needless to say, the gentlemen's digressions into Fisher-Thiessen related memories atttracted my attention, (Thiessen was, by the way, the maiden name of the "Fisher Brothers'" German-born mother, Margaret; Titus was the maiden name of the Norwalk-born wife of Lawrence and Margaret's fourth born son [my namesake], William A.--who was the last to leave Norwalk in 1915.)
Anyway, thank you also for your helpful suggestions. I will be seeking out the local historian (or his books) you mentioned. Thank you.

Repectfully yours, Drew Fisher

Cliff Cannon

@ Farmer Drew : Being a native Detrioter ( born in Highland Park ) I would love to hear as well as swap Det. Fisher story's with you if your still interested. I'll check back here for you. I presume,you were the one who called the Reflector in search of information on a relative's Peru,Ohio home. Hopefully,that was helpful

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