Commissioners refuse to sign airport grant application

The Huron County commissioners ended all suspense Thursday and voted down the airport's federal grant application.
Scott Seitz2
Aug 3, 2012

The Huron County commissioners ended all suspense Thursday and voted down the airport's federal grant application.

The application needed the commissioners' approval and signature before it could be forwarded to the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) for its consideration.

The vote to turn down the application was 3-0.

The commissioners also voted to send a four-page letter to Dennis Sokol, airport board president, and the airport board members explaining the reasons for their decision.

The grant could have brought about $232,000 in federal funds to the airport for improvements, including tree removal and drainage work.

See Friday's Norwalk Reflector for complete story.

Comments

hcvoter53

Maybe they should get rid of that a## Carl and Frankinstein. LOL

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hcvoter53

Hey verbalkint---I mean Carl. Looks like you're on the computor during County time. We pay your salary. Maybe your wife can pay the rest of your bills like your Property Tax. Maybe she can get you off the computor long enough to pay your property tax on time from now on.

VerbalKint

What a ridiculous statement.....and you are a pilot? Do you see why I am concerned about the LIABILITY for the Huron County taxpayer?????

Reasonable

What's the matter Verbal. It is easy to prove the commissionsers are liars, Essex is obviously a chronic tax cheat if he can't pay on time like the rest of us, and all you have to do is look at his past payment (or lack there of) property tax records.. Pretty pathetic excuses, but he's egoticstical enougfh to think their valid. Hintz is ok as long as he likes the laws and regulations he wants to abide by, otherwise if he doesn't agree, he believes himself to be above the law. It's obvious your part of the Bader payoff becuase only an idiot or someone in Bader's back pocket is so blind to believe the BS you spout about the invented savior of Huron county. 10 days out of the year, and you're ready to give him whatever he wants. You really are ignorant and deserve the group of slimy politicians and liars you have picked to hang around with and defend. Find another blog because you are the one who is embarrassing yourself.

Ralph Wiggum

"egoticstical enougfh to think their valid"? You spell like that and accuse another person of being an embarrassment?

propman

Ralph you are an embarassment for the whole County.

Ralph Wiggum

Are you talking about Huron County? I know you live in Lorain County and have that position permanently locked up.

propman

Ralph the only thing you "know" is what has been spoon fed to you by the commissioners. You "know" nothing of me and if you did I'd have a legal case against you and the paper. Remember your threat to me when I comented that I'd ask for ID from anyone I thought was acting suspiciously at the airport I work at?

Ralph Wiggum

A threat? Really? LOL!!!!

propman

So you are just a BLOWHARD then.

citizenof hc

Well Carl, maybe Reasonable didn't have spell check working but evidently even a well documented jackass like yourself understood what he was saying. You and Verbal must be brothers, or more likely the same person using different surnames.

Ralph Wiggum

Assuming you're about the intellectual standard when it comes to the people commenting on here that use the airport, how are there so many of you still around? I've listened to you and your buddies and can't believe one of you in the past hasn't walked into a spinning propeller, strangled yourself with the cord on your headset or tried to check the fuel level in a gas tank with a match. The scariest part is knowing the county I reside in could be held monetarily liable for your actions. Maybe the first airport improvement we need are those protective plugs for all of the electrical outlets and take away anything that's sharp or pointy.

hcfarmerbh

Afraid I agree with the citizen, you really are a lot like Essex, an arrogant ignorant jackass. You obviously have some sort of mental anguish, and have an issue with someone who chooses to fly a plane for business over a hobbyist who wants to play at the track with his funny car. I actually understand the value of a complete transportation system, and know business people who use the airport. Theylfy in meet with the suppliers, buy products from our area which keeps local people working year round. Whether you are smart enough to realize,the track also benefits from the airport just like the rest of the uninformed community, who hears distorted facts from people like you. Your stupid remarks do nothing but show your own lack of knowledge of the situation

propman

Ralph maybe you should do the same and remove that pointy object from on top of your shoulders and make the world safer.
Was it you who further damaged the airplane that was involved in an accident in june Essex? It was not in the condition pictured in the paper when I seen it in the hanger a few days later. Someone moved it even though it had a sign saying not to, and did further damage.

Ralph Wiggum

Oh, starting to accuse people of vandalism now? Smart move! I'm not Essex either as I've told you time and time before. You talk a big game on here but do you talk the same big game when you're at the airport board meetings? Do you get in Carl's face and tell him what you think of him and his actions or go cower in the corner and save it for here?

propman

Not vadalism, STUPIDITY. Your speciallity Ralph

Ralph Wiggum

Just like I thought, cowering in the corner. Good thing you were there and "seen" it for yourself! LOL!!

propman

I was there in the front listening to you (essex) flapping your lips and saying nothing while allowing no one to derail your diatribe. When others did have a chance to speak, my points were well handled by those who spoke before me.

The plane was pictured in the paper sitting properly on its landing gear. When I saw it a few days later, one of the main gear legs was folded under it causing what would be thousands of additional dollars worth of damage. It was a beautiful airplane that had just been fully rebuilt and the pilot was flying it home. He messed up his landing (apparently) and did enough damage. But for someone to further damage it through stupidity means that the county will be using its insurance for the additional damage. Furtunately the county's insurance should cover that, at least til the insurance company finds out about the idiots running the county.

By the way, I do have photos of it sitting with the gear folded under. So when you ask for proof, I do have it.

Ralph Wiggum

Someone else had questioned Essex to his face about vandalizing the plane before you had the chance? With all of your pictures make sure you walk right up and show Essex at the next board meeting. Let him know as a non-resident you're very disgusted with Huron County since they're not spending their tax money according to your desires plus his personal and work ethics. I'm sure he'd love a face to face chat with you and discuss your proof and opinions. If you're lucky once again, some other person will bring up all of your concerns and you can hide or run around asking for I.D.'s since someone at the airport is damaging personal property according to you.

propman

With Essex all you get is his diatribes, not any true discussions. Kind of like you too!
As a human being Essex disgusts me. And what makes you defend him so much, Ralph? The truth about him hitting too close to you?
Essex had run off before I'd seen the plane in the hanger. Do you really think he'd stick around to face people who actually know what they are talking about? OOPs,I forgot you don't think! Once a meeting is over where he could hide behide board rules on dicussions he virtually runs out.
In his statements at the board meetings and in the paper he has shown to all what many here say he is. Egotistical and arrogant are the most often noted characteristics. Sounds an awful lot like you here too.

Ralph Wiggum

Oh yeah? He runs for the door? Then how did someone else do your talking for you in the past? Did someone run and tackle Essex in the parking lot to proclaim your concerns for you while Carl was sprinting for his car? Stand by the door or by his vehicle and wait for him the next time and you'd have the opportunity to ask him if he damaged the plane that you "seen" for yourself. You have the proof right on your phone just like you said. As a non-resident you have serious problems with our elected officials and a few people they've placed in appointed positions. Maybe Essex is as bad as certain people say and maybe he isn't (I've never met him) but when you drive all the way to this county to attend our airport board meetings and have the opportunity to address your concerns personally with the man you have the most trouble with, you come up with lame excuses. IT'S HILARIOUS!!!!! I'll give you some advice on how to save driving time and gas money in the future. When the next board meeting is announced just sit at home that evening and continually smash your thumb with a hammer. You'll get as irritated as attending the meeting without driving and then come straight here for your Essex bashing! Ask the airport board to move their meetings to Tuesday so you can swing by Norwalk City Council meetings and make it a two for one. I'm sure the City of Norwalk is doing something you'd find personally offensive and they have more people on council than we have as commissioners to berate.

propman

Darm I sure fired you up, still hitting to close to home for you? The only time you'd meet Essex is when looking in a mirror.
What happens at Huron County Airport affects me throughy my work. So i do have at least one reason to be concerned about what happens there. I've said I'm going to be a resident in the past as well. Am I now or not is none of your business since you keep attacking me I woen't give you the conformation you think you're intitled too.

Windy
Amen, Reasonable!

KURTje

Looks like a few lost......HEY FELLAS - it is called democracy. No need for the many to pay for the few.

Windy

We don't all use ADAMhs, Dog Warden, Health Department, Huron County Transit, Humane Society, Job & Family Services, Job Store, Services for the Aging, Victim's Assistance, or WIC. Using your logic, why should "the many pay for the few" who use these county agencies? Did you stop to think that the 87 documented businesses (with all of their employees and customers) who use and benefit from the airport add up to a LOT more than the average Joe Six-Pack can see? Even the racetrack benefits from the airport!

jstus2001

Bottom line...Make the Airport "Self sufficiant" like ANY BUSINESS should be. If it isn't, DUMP IT AND CUT THE LOSSES to the taxpayer...well, those of us that do pay taxes. This is not rocket sceince. Just more int the "SONETHING FOR NOTHING" line with their hands out.
"IG-MO'S"

Windy

Let's make ALL of the county's "tax burdens" be "SELF SUFFICIENT like ANY BUSINESS should be". This would include: ADAMhs Board, Auditor's Office, Board of Elections, Board of MR/DD, Building Inspector's Office, Commissioners' Office, County Courthouse (and all departments within), Development Council, Dog Warden, Emergency Management Agency, Engineer/Highway Department, Fairgrounds, Health Department, Huron County Transit, Humane Society, Job & Family Services, Job Store, Services for the Aging, Sheriff's Department, Solid Waste, Soil and Water Conservation, Transfer Station/Landfill, Victim's Assistance, WIC, etc. etc. etc. It's not fair to single out only ONE of the county's departments with their "hands out" - let's hold ALL of them to the same standard! JSTUS2001, with rocket scientists like you, no wonder our astronauts have to get to the International Space Station on RUSSIAN rockets!

flowerchild65

This smells similar to the corruption that was going on with Cuyahoga County/Jimmy DeMora. Maybe someone should contact one of the local investigative reporters like Carl Monday or Tom Meyer. They may be interested in looking into what's going on with our county commissioners.

VerbalKint

lmao now that is hilarious.....here you go kiddo, knock yourself out:

Carl Monday
Phone: 216-367-7311

Tom Meyer Phone: 216-344-3464

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