Commissioners refuse to sign airport grant application

The Huron County commissioners ended all suspense Thursday and voted down the airport's federal grant application.
Scott Seitz2
Aug 3, 2012

 

The Huron County commissioners ended all suspense Thursday and voted down the airport's federal grant application.

The application needed the commissioners' approval and signature before it could be forwarded to the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) for its consideration.

The vote to turn down the application was 3-0.

The commissioners also voted to send a four-page letter to Dennis Sokol, airport board president, and the airport board members explaining the reasons for their decision.

The grant could have brought about $232,000 in federal funds to the airport for improvements, including tree removal and drainage work.

See Friday's Norwalk Reflector for complete story.

Comments

VerbalKint

Wow....name calling again, seriously people you are embarrassing yourselves. Please provide proof that the commissioners are tax cheats, liars and conmen. For the tax cheats accusation, copies of tax forms will do, dates and times or recordings will suffice for the liars and conmen accusations.

Most Wanted.

Who's name calling? I was summarizing what "Reasonable" said.

propman

What study and who funded it for what purpose?

propman

Who authured the viewpoint and what is their agenda?

NorwalkTaxpayer5

Viewpoints: "Reflects the majority opinion of the members of the Sandusky Register editorial board"

propman

4 posts from NorwalkTaxpayer5 and all are old VIEWPOINTS and A STUDY THAT HAD THE INTENT OF SHOWING THE AIRPORT AS USELESS FOR THE COMMISSIONERS. And all from 2011 as well. No new arguements to support their anti- airport positions, just new screen names and the same propaganda.

NorwalkTaxpayer5

Shhhhh it's OK....eventually it will be relocated, or boarded up or left to rot while the land goes to Summit.....don't fret, all you need to do is go a few miles south to Willard and everything will be just fine! Just a few miles for you and your tiny clique....come on, for the greater good....you can dooooo it!

propman

That is your opinion and not a very informed one at that. At the rate Bader is lossing attendence how long before the raceway is boarded up?

AlterEgo

How about you post the section that says it will be next to impossible to close the airport.

Reasonable

Alter, this guy obviously didn't get to read the commissioners June 2011 Clark & Winestock report which told them and their supporters it would be next to impossible to sell the airport.

NorwalkTaxpayer5

Relocation or closing is more likely, it is certainly a good possibility. Also, It may be hard to sell, but not impossible, especially if you get state officials to back the closing.

hcvoter53

SHOW ME ALL THE MONEY SUMMIT BRINGS INTO THIS COUNTY. I don't want to hear about some report that Bader paid for, that includes Erie County (Cedar Point, Islands, Kalaharli, all the hotels up and down the strip) Again show me what monies this company brings into Huron County.

AlterEgo

Relocation is the only possibility and that would be acceptable to most of the proponents of the airport, however, there is no way that is going to happen due to costs. I mean you d!cks are bitching about the cost of the airport now when the commissioners are not funding it now.

Windy

Ralphie Wiggie complains that there are people on here that are not from HURON County telling us how to run our county and then you spout rhetoric from ERIE County. Wow, you nay-sayers are really ghrasping at straws. You must be politicians. Every time one of you has asked for facts/proof concerning the value of the airport, you have been provided with it. However, when those who are pro-airport ask the same concerning the racetrack, there is NOTHING. You all ASSUME that the racetrack is so valuable to the county, but nobody is SHOWING ACTUAL PROOF. You know that old saying about when one assumes . . . . ?

hcvoter53

Yah ---SHOW us the MONEY. How much does this private business actually bring into the County? Its seasonal, hardly any property tax. So whats the benefit??

IndependentThinker

NT5:
It is the county commissioners that need to grow a pair. The three have not made a decent management decision in years. If Bader is so valuable, why haven't the commissioners voted to close the airport? Each time this question is asked, there is silence! Frankly, I view Summit as a great asset but I do not appreciate blackmail when Bader says "If I do not get the airport property, I am leaving!." Let's get going and put the question directly to the FAA who has the final say. They must release the property from the perpetual obligation. The commissioners have to vote to get this going but I am not holding my breath.

IndependentThinker

NT5:
We have asked Roland Tkach these questions and he says that it is impossible to accurately quantify the economic impact of Summit. Yes, we know the amount of real estate tax they pay (which is very low because much of what they have out there is classified as movable equipment). But there is no direct track if sales tax revenue and because the track is outside of the city, there is no local income tax.

Windy

Especially if what I have heard is true, that in addition to selling tickets at the gate, they sell tickets out of the trunks of cars. I heard that when the trunk gets filled with cash, they bring it to the office. I wonder how many of those "cash sales" are reported? If this is actually true, I'm sure the IRS would be VERY interested.

IndependentThinker

The airport is a government entity. Now when did government entities such as libraries, schools, health clinics, and other government organizations start being required to become profit making?
The FAA requirement is "as self-sustaining as possible" and at this time, I believe that the airport is sustaining itself on self-generated revenue.

Windy

The problem with the obstructions was documented by the Ohio DOT several years ago. The Commissioners have now turned down TWO opportunities to have this problem remedied for FREE. When do you think the Huron County Engineer's Office might get to removing the obstructions? Maybe after someone gets killed?

NorwalkTaxpayer5

Several years ago huh? So the airport board has dropped the ball for several years? Seems the airport board and friends are too busy using the airport for their own gain instead of maintaining it. I think its time for new board members, I don't foresee any reappointments to this inept board in the future.

citizenof hc

There it is, Carl Essex raising his head again. Smart Carl. You haven't done anything you've promised in the past from what I have read, except throw wrenches into everyday operations at the airport. Now we are going to use County Highway Dept people who are charged with the county's roadways/bridges, and paid out of a fund from motor vehicle license sales, to do thousands of dollars of work, that a grant would have paid for. On top of that, you wer most likely instrumental in taking money away from a local construction business with local employes who were ready to do all the required work. Just like your three commissioner buddies you have a history of spouting BS, and doing NOTHING.

propman

Here is my take on Bader's study again for you.
Bader claims to have an impact of almost $100 million on the economy of Huron and Erie counties according to the study commissioned by Summit Motorsports. Looking at that claim, if you split the impact evenly between the two counties, that has Huron County gaining $50 million from the racetrack. Dividing that figure among the population of nearly 60,000 people in Huron County, the racetrack would have an impact of $833.00 per every PERSON (man, woman and child) in the county. This also comes out to be just over 9% of the total economic activity in Huron County for 2011. There was an article a while ago from the auditor's office that gave the figure of $540.1 million for the total of money spent in Huron county. When looked at with any concept of reality, the claim of that study is literally impossible to believe! Such claims makes Obama look truthful and honest!

hcfarmland

What's the matter Carl, Larry getting a little worried he's going to be on the outside looking in come Janaury. Then maybe someone will step on your neck and make you go back to work, or better yet, maybe they'll just fire you for incompetence. You must be worried with all the posts your thowing on. I'd say that a group of individuals ready to give their own money so the county could get a grant deserves respect rather than your sarcasm. They made an effort to help maintain property owned by the county, used by business and recreational airplanes. I don't see you doing anything but point fingers. Here's hoping DUNLAP kicks your buddy out on his ear. I'd say you are the biggest problem on the airport board right now, Property Tax Dodger.

propman

You turn down a grant that would cost the county taxpayers nothing but who pays the egineer's cost (wages,fuel and maintenanceof the equipment), THE TAXPAYERS OF HURON COUNTY!
Your logic is nonexistent on that one.

NorwalkTaxpayer5

MOVE ON OVER ......BUH-BYE AIRPORT, BUH-BYE!

Windy

Yes, the HURON COUNTY COMMISSIONERS have been aware of the problem, however they have still refused to co-sign for TWO YEARS IN A ROW the grant applications the Airport Board has gone to great length to prepare. The grant would have removed the obstacles at NO COST to the taxpayers while having a LOCAL business do all the work. Therefore, since the Commissioners have neglected to remove obstacles documented as hazardous by the Ohio DOT, the COMMISSIONERS have made the Huron County taxpayers liable if there is an accident due to those obstacles. Wow, buying TWO $500 picnic tables, sitting on a $500,000 loan for a courthouse vestibule while giving away $300,000 of the taxpayers' money to the Ohio State Ag program, cutting the sheriff department's budget, and putting the county at risk for a law suit worth millions of dollars does not sound like the "three stooges" know how to make wise decisions. The way I see it, it is time for NEW COMMISSIONERS . . . and they can take their "civil disobedient" crony Essex with them!

IndependentThinker

Can and will are two different concepts,

Windy

Community airports are often transformed into command centers during natural disasters, where they can receive and distribute medical and basic living supplies. Local businesses use these aircraft to visit distant job sites, serve customers, carry out repairs and deliveries and explore new markets in a reasonable amount of time. In addition to helping 87 full-time businesses be more profitable, you have no clue as to the value of that airport, but in a disaster, you might.

NorwalkTaxpayer5

lmao suddenly now you come up with the disaster angle? When, oh when, in the last 40 years did we have a disaster or use the airport for anything having to do with a disaster? lmao you are really reaching....listen genius, if and when we have a disaster and we need something flown in, we'll just have them land in one of our many huge fields or even the dragstrip!! We don't need no airport!! Come on now, say it with me, BUH-BYE AIRPORT, BUH-BYE NOW!

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